the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Khaokor Galaxy vs Sung Kil Moon II

Wow! For a 1 sided beatdown this is a vastly entertaining fight, and Khaokor’s performance is among the most brilliant in history, and the gutsy determination of Moon in a losing effort is inspired.

The post fight scene after the fight is a picture that speaks volumes. Moon in his corner slumped down his face looks like he has been jumped by 3 guys...Khaokor in the middle of the ring with his team combing his hair back looks like he is going to a pre fight press conference rather than coming out of a 12 rd fight.

I have always wondered why Galaxy took a year of fighting lightly regarded opposition following their first fight, but after watching this he must have ate slept and fought this fight in his mind 1000 times. He had an answer for everything Moon did, and he was so fluid he made it look effortless.

The only rds I found to be close in regards to scoring are 4/10 and they are both exciting fun rounds. Despite the lopsided nature of the fight Moon was full of resolve and his face revealed no frustration until the KD’s of rd 11. He kept coming forward, and his chin is top notch because he endured a load of heavy blows.

The judges did not have Galaxy losing a round but 2 of them found 3 even rounds and the 3rd found 6. I didn’t score any even and only find 2 close enough 4/10 to warrant that?

Either way total shutout for me with rd 11 being a 10-7 rd for 120-106

2 judges had 120-109 the 3rd 120-112

 

Miguel Cotto 26-0 (22 ko) v Paulie Malignaggi 22-0 (5 ko)
2006-06-10 WBO 140lbs title
Rd.1- A clash of heads cuts Paulie's eye in the first 10 seconds. Malignaggi's aggressive, picking spots to come forward. Throws a lot of leather for round 1. Lands lands some 1-2's and left hooks working exclusively to the head. in every clinch he moves the wrong way to protect his eye and has to duck in clinches to avoid scrapping the cut on Cotto's head. Cotto is not flustered by Paulie's activity and throws some variety to body and head, already trying uppercuts. Should be Paulie's round based on activity but Cotto's able to land enough solid punches to make it even.
10 - 10
Rd.2- Cotto comes out more active but Malignaggi maintains his work rate. Cotto throwing left body hooks, Malignaggi right body hooks. Both step with their jabs and Malignaggi steps straight back - not to the side when Cotto jabs. Double left jab to the body and Paulie retreats straight back into a corner then tries to jab his way out, walking into a left hand and is dropped about 1 minute into the round. Cotto applies pressure walking forward patiently. Paulie tries to change the momentum by throwing two 3 piece combo's but gets nailed with 2 crisp left hooks upstairs with a minute to go. Cotto puts weight into his jabs and hooks, upstairs and down.
10 - 8 Cotto
20 - 18 Cotto
Rd.3- Paulie more defensivley responsible now, shoulder rolling and moving his feet. Both know that Cotto can hurt Pauilie but he can't hurt Cotto who throws stiff double jabs on the outside, hooks and straights inside snapping Malignaggi's head here and there.
10 - 9 Cotto
30 - 27 Cotto
Rd.4- Cotto dominant but not rushing. He's got better balance and moves more efficiently than Malignaggi whose wariness exaggerates his movements and makes him easier to read. Miguel landing upstairs and really working the body. He takes it up a notch in the last 40 seconds landing solid hooks to the body.
10 - 9 Cotto
40 - 36 Cotto.
Rd.5- Paulie starts out of range and is able to land jabs on Cotto coming in. Lands a 1-2, his best combo so far. Seems to forget about the range which allows Miguel to work the body again. Cotto more hook focused this round and lands a nice 3-4-3 combo cleanly.
10 - 9 Cotto
50 - 45 Cotto
Rd.6- Fight is unfolding predictably. Paulie better at keeping distance here and initiating a lot more clinches. Miguel hooking to the body. Cotto lands beautiful flush hooks with a minute to go and again with 30 seconds to go. Malignaggi's 1-2's are very predictable now, no feints and not coming in off beats so they are taken on the gloves. Closer round though.
10 - 9 Cotto
60 - 54 Cotto
Rd.7- Malignaggi mixes his timing and placement on his 1-2's and looks better till Cotto left hook. Miguel wises up to the clinching and is able to get his hands free. Lands hooks up stairs and down. It's getting dull b/c the same things happen every round at around the same time. I wish Cotto would wrestle Pauile into a corner and knock him out.
10 - 9 Cotto
70 - 63 Cotto
Rd.8- Paulie's last stand? Actually throws hooks, changes angles and comes forward. He has no power though but he's upped the ante and is at least attacking. It's courageous though and I appreciate the effort. I don't think Paulie's used a high guard once. Just stays in the philly shell which is too predictable. Paulie must've found boxing easy when he was a teen b/c he has all the pretty and flashy parts of boxing down but few of the tools you actually need to compete at a high level. After a while Miguel thinks f*** you and throws Paulie to the canvas. I'll give this even just 'cos
10 - 10
80 - 73 Cotto
Rd.9- When Paulie Attacks! Very busy from Malignaggi. Throws a lot on the outside and draws even at least on the inside. There's just not enough time for Cotto who is determind to be defensively responsible. 30 seconds to go and Paulie cracks Miguel with an overhand right that staggers Cotto or (more likely) caught him off balance. Italian Americans in the crowd go ape. Between rounds camera shows bad swelling on Malignaggi's jaw from left hooks.
9 - 10 Malignaggi
89 - 83 Cotto
Rd.10- Activity form Paulie again. Crowd chanting 'Paulie, Paulie'. Both land good uppercuts in clinches. Cotto's is better but the crowd loses it for Paulie's. Last minute is full of clinches where Cotto gets his hands free and left-rights the body putting his weight into them.
10 - 9 Cotto
99 - 92 Cotto
Rd.11- In the first minute the crowd loses it three times for eye catching Malignaggi punches. Two lefts and a right. One may stagger Cotto or he's off balance again. In between these punches Cotto is just quietly breaking him down like a butcher does a side of beef. Paulie is bleeding heavily from the nose or mouth. The longer the round goes the more dominant Cotto is. Paulie showing great heart. Giving it his all but he doesn't have the fire power to compete. Cotto takes his time. Defending, jabbing and hooking. He does what the situation dictates like the true pro he is. Almost a 10 - 8. Commentators wondering if it's wise to continue. Between rounds it's obvious that the blood is coming from Paulie's mouth. His jaw is broken. The swelling is like Ali's v Frazier 1.
10 - 9 Cotto
109 - 101
Rd.12- Bell rings and Cotto launches a scud missile of a jab. Paulie holds on for dear life. The round is Paulie tying up trying to survive and Cotto occasionally getting his hands free to punish (mostly) the body. The bell rings.
Paulie won a lot of fans with his courage. I didn't think he had this much heart.
10 - 9 Cotto

My Score: 119 - 110 Cotto
Official: Don Trella 115 - 112, Glen Feldman 116 - 111, Peter Trematerra 116 - 111
UD Cotto
There's no way I could find 3 rounds for Paulie, let alone 4. I'd love to know which rounds they gave him.
Judges may've been influenced by the crowd or maybe I'm a crap judge.

 

Good post! This has been in my notebook for 2 months to review but have not bumped it up my to watch list yet. Interesting take. I remember having it 116-111? Or that ballpark? But you seem to be on the wider end of the spectrum...not saying your take is wrong. I remember being impressed by Paulies toughness in this fight, I thought he would cave and get stopped around 9-10. Perhaps I gave him some close rounds based on guttiness but I am not sure! I need to move this up my list with Cotto vs Margo II

 

Thanks man, I usually favor the boxer in fights but I thought Cotto's shots were harder and therefore, worth more. Apart from his left hook, I don't think his punches are 'eye catching' but to my eye, they are there. I've got no problem with 116-111. There were a few rounds where Paulie's very active and like you said, I didn't think Paulie could stand up to Cotto's punches. Hats off to him, he has courage.
Cotto - Margo 2 is a great fight. I'll give it a watch soon.

 

When this took place way back when, I was out of the country and called home to ask my Dad about the fight. When he said Mamby knocked out DeJesus, I couldn't believe it. Never saw the fight until now, so thanks for bringing it to my attention, Philly.

Round 1: 10-9 DeJesus
Round 2: 10-9 DeJesus
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 DeJesus
Round 5: 10-9 Mamby
Round 6: 10-9 Mamby
Round 7: 10-9 Mamby
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Mamby
Round 10: 10-9 Mamby
Round 11: 10-9 Mamby
Round 12: 10-8 Mamby (scores a knockdown)
Round 13: Mamby stops DeJesus

Total (through 12 completed rounds): 117-112 Mamby

After the first four rounds when DeJesus was fresh and able to get inside, he did well. But Mamby played a waiting game and slowly chipped away. To his credit, DeJesus never stopped trying, but the wind came out of his sails in the 12th and was done like dinner.

 

Hurd vs Williams:

8-3-1

117-111 for Williams.

 

Saman Sorjaturong vs Humberto Gonzalez
1995 FOTY

Not sure how I have missed this one through the years? Rounds 3-7 are definitely FOTY worthy.

Saman comes out boxing good, quick feet and hands darting in and out not letting it turn into an infight. Gonzalez looks slow and wide and wild in his punches gets caught off balance for a Flash KD (almost does again in 4 but stays up). At this point I am thinking it will be a walk through for Saman.

After the KD Gonzalez is not really hurt and holds his own the rest of the round. Ends with a nasty accidental southpaw vs orthodox headbutt that leaves Saman with a bump and cut above the left eye.

Rd 3 ultra close! Gonzalez begins stalking and cutting off the ring more effectively, and edges a very close rd.

Rd 4-6 Gonzalez has turned this around and is in complete control. Round 4 is amazing to me, and he drops Saman in 5.

Rd 6 closer rd, and I am wondering how to score it when Gonzalez unleashes and drops him again.

Rd 7 Saman digs deep and comes out firing away, Gonzalez quickly matches him and a slugfest breaks out. 2 perfect rights by Saman and Gonzalez goes down, gets up a mask of blood running down his face. Saman backs him up and unleashed a barrage the ref steps in as Gonzalez is out on his feet. All over!

Very fun fight.....
I felt Saman took 1-2 up 20-17
Gonzalez 3-6 up 57-54

I feel like the judges were off a hair.
1 scored 1 even
1 scored 1 for Gonzalez
1 scored 1 for Gonzalez and 2 only a 10-9 despite Gonzalez getting Kd’d.

1/3 were very close and could be even or both for Gonzalez even though I didn’t...but to score 2 a 10-9 rd as well rather than 10-8 stinks! Glad this didn’t go to the cards.

Gonzalez goes out like a great warrior deserves to go out! Covered with blood but still on his feet, after giving a brutal beating inside. Good fight!

 

Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao I

What a great! fun! Fight to rewatch!

This fight is very closely contested throughout and outside of 2-4-11 for Morales and 1-9-12 for Pac I find this fight very hard to score. 6 very close rds I had 4-2 for Morales so my result equaled the judges and I saw it closer to Merchant than Lederman.

There were a few headbutts due to the south paw vs orthodox style that occurred. The first in rd 2 the 2nd in rd 5 and the 3 rd later in rd 5 that led to a bad cut on Manny. It definitely impacted the fight, but I don’t want to say it impacted the decision.....but I had manny up 3-2 at the time and Morales 5-2 the rest of the way. Was it due to the cut or was Érik just on his A game this night and it wouldn’t matter?

Great ebbs and flows and mid rd momentum shifts, with good back and forth exchanges.

RBR
1 Pac
2 Morales
3 Pac
4 Morales
5 Pac
6 Morales
7 Morales
8 Morales
9 Pac
10 Morales
11 Morales
12 Morales

Morales 115-113

Not sure why Érik fought southpaw in the 12th. He didn’t look good and had his worst rd of the fight.

 

Orlando Salido vs Vasyl Lomachenko

A decent tactical and strategic fight between Lomachenko in his 2nd pro fight vs the savvy Salido. Salido gives up his title by coming in over weight and then rehydrating 19 lbs for a huge weight advantage.

The commentary was bad but I did enjoy the way they critiqued cole and his horrible performance reffing this fight.

Salido works the body good and his extra size makes it difficult for Loma to adjust. Loma can’t seem to get comfortable until around 10 and by then it was to late...at least as far as the official result goes. I scored Loma on fight night, this time I had a draw. I can see a 1 pt win for either guy, 116-112 Salido seems on the widest end of the spectrum but I wouldn’t call it unrealistic, just that all 4 of the close rds had to go in his direction.

RBR
1 Lomachenko
2 Salido
3 Salido
4 Salido
5 Lomachenko
6 Lomachenko
7 Salido
8 Salido
9 Salido
10 Lomachenko
11 Lomachenko
12 Lomachenko

114-114 for me

 

Manny Pacquaio vs Erik Morales II

I watched the British Sky Sports version which is better than their American counterparts but still Meh....

They kept saying this was better than the first fight and while I found it a good fun fight it was well short of their great first encounter.

Pacquaio looks good the first 2 rds. Good hand speed, moving well utilizing his quicker feet and hands to score nice, improved body and head movement defensively and Morales has trouble landing.

Rds 3-5 Morales fighting back good edged 3 close rds on my card, but I don’t have the sense that he is in control like I did during fight I.

6-9 are largely wide/clear Manny rds. Rd 7 Morales fights real good for the first 60 but it is all Pac down the stretch. Morales has little left for the final minute in all 4 rds and fatigue is clearly setting in.

10 All Pac....Morales fights back valiantly but has nothing on his punches....Manny drops Morales for only the 2nd time in his career....manny all over him and the ref waves it off as Morales goes down again.

Fun fight but a little to onesided to be a great fight. I will call it a great performance against a faded great.

RBR
1 Pac
2 Pac
3 Morales
4 Morales
5 Morales
6 Pac
7 Pac
8 Pac
9 Pac

Pac by TKO 10 up 87-84 on my card.

 

Manny Pacquaio vs Erik Morales III

I always have mixed emotions watching this fight. It is a fun 3 rds yet it is always sad to me to see a great valiant warrior lose to both a prime great as well as to time itself.

Morales looks slow and wide in his punches offensively and his once decent defense is now sloppy and ineffective. Pac looks larger and stronger and just as quick.

I wished Morales had retired after the 2nd fight instead of having a 3rd and then 6 more lackluster years.

Morales is a warrior and although getting beaten to the punch he battles back with 3-4 nice exchanges in the first, yet still clearly loses the rd. 2 Pac on the assault again, Morales backs him to the ropes, and again a 2nd tone and Morales let’s it fly...but he is to wide open on D and Pac lands a crisp left that drops Morales...yet Morales fights on and escapes the rd.

Rd 3 about the only thing Morales can do atbthis pt is jab, and mannys footwork keeps him out of range till he is ready to pounce. Morales unable to land lunges with the jab leaving himself off balance and out of position. Manny drops him again...Morales back up and swinging with his own, but although valiant he is to vulnerable and open on D, manny drops him again.

Then the sad sight....Morales just puts his arms over his knees and sits there as the ref counts...able but unwilling to get up....I hate this scene regardless of the once proud warrior.

Manny up 20-17 scores a KO at the end of 3.

 

Fighting Harada vs Pone Kingpetch I

Never saw this before, and while I knew Harada won I was not expecting this. This is a brutal one sided onslaught of one great over another.

Pone has a nice jab, but Harada rendered it ineffective and at times completely useless. Harada swarms right out of the gate and never stops, for brief periods he allows it to settle in at midrange and while Pone does better there, Harada still wins those exchanges.

Pone has a nice jab, but Harada’s pressure keeps him backing up and takes any snap off of the jab. By mid fight Harada is jabbing quicker stronger and sharper timing Pone well. Pone does not have the footwork or speed or movement to keep Harada off of him.

Harada is so varied in his punch output and his volume never stops. He comes forward behind the jab, then behind a lead left, then behind a right...other times he just slips the jab and is planted in Pones chest before he can reset.

Pone is a warrior to take a beating of this magnitude. He looks wobbly in 9....looks not ready to come out in 10, then when he gets up Harada wobbles him again....same in the 11th when a 30 punch (or close to it) assault leaves him crumpled against the ropes where he remains till the 10 count is done.

Looking forward to fight 2, but this is one to check out...

Quick thing on the judges
1 scored it 50-38 meaning 2 5-3 rds...
2 scored 1 for Pone 49-41
3 scored 1 for Pone 49-46 with 5 even rds.

I can’t find a single rd close enough to be even let alone scored for Pone. Rds 3-5 and 8 are competitive but still not what I would call close.

50-40 on my card every rd 5-4 for Harada

 

Fighting Harada vs Pone Kingpetch II

Wow ! What a robbery I know this was not scored on the 10 pt must system but I had 118-110 on the 12 rounds available. I think you could make a better casa for Harada sweeping this fight than Pone winning. I don’t use the word robbery but this seems very unfair. Harada was all class congratulating Pone and even raising his hand afterwards.

Pone figures much better, than fight 1 meaning it is not a one sided assault...although the first half of the fight (except rds 4-5 which are missing) looked similar to the first fight but Pone did better even though he was losing widely on my card.

Rds 6-7 are semi close but clear Harada rds.

Rds 8-10 ultra close with me going Harada in 8 and Kingpetch in 9-10....but even they could be even or Harada rds. It also looked like Harada scores a KD at the end of 8 and mid 9 but neither look to be called a KD.

Rd 11 missing

12-15 all pretty close but I feel Harada took all 4.

Best case scenerio I have 6-6 in rds giving Pone every marginally close rd...in reality I have it 10-2, w/3 missing rds.

Very fun fight and 6-15 are very fun, the crowd is in a frenzy all night and make me want to go to Thailand to watch a fight. Man they are lively!

I loved the fight but didn’t like the decision at all.

RBR
1-3 Harada
4-5 Missing
6-8 Harada
9-10 Kingpetch
11 Missing
12-15 Harada

Harada 118-110 in a “real robbery” not an arguably close decision..this is even worse than Lockridge vs Gomez!

 

I posted these on another thread, but they belong here. Holmes v Spinks 1 & 2.

Holmes v Spinks I

Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
Round 2: 10-9 Holmes
Round 3: 10-9 Spinks
Round 4: 10-9 Spinks
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Spinks
Round 7: 10-9 Spinks
Round 8: 10-9 Spinks
Round 9: 10-9 Holmes
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Spinks
Round 12: 10-9 Spinks
Round 13: 10-10 Even
Round 14: 10-9 Holmes
Round 15: 10-9 Holmes

Total: 145-143 Spinks

I have no idea why Homes abruptly stopped whacking the body - which clearly effected Spinks.

 

And the rematch...

Holmes vs Spinks II

Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
Round 2: 10-9 Holmes *
Round 3: 10-9 Holmes
Round 4: 10-9 Holmes
Round 5: 10-9 Spinks
Round 6: 10-9 Spinks
Round 7: 10-9 Holmes
Round 8: 10-9 Spinks
Round 9: 10-9 Holmes
Round 10: 10-9 Spinks
Round 11: 10-9 Holmes
Round 12: 10-10 Even
Round 13: 10-9 Spinks
Round 14: 10-9 Holmes **
Round 15: 10-9 Spinks

Total: 144-142 Holmes

Let's look at the two rounds I noted. Round 2 which I scored 10-9 for Holmes, in the hands of someone more liberal with points could have called that 10-8 for Larry. He did stun Spinks towards the end of the round, but mostly because Spinks did absolutely nothing that round. It's up to the individual scorer.

Round 14 was another unusual one. Spinks started well and ended well, but Larry did stun him and followed up briefly before Spinks ended the round better. But how do you score? Spinks did most of the heavy lifting that round, but Holmes did rattle him. Very tight, but I gave it to Holmes. I could have called it even as well, but it was an intense moment for Larry. I see Harold (God rest him) also gave the round to Larry. Good fight. Felt Larry deserved this, but Spinks should be lauded for fighting his heart out.