Marciano Contemplated Coming Back For Sonny.

This has so many ridiculous statements....Ezzard was an ATp4pG Archie was an ATp4pG both were only slightly out of prime not way past it at all. was Holyfield just a blown up cruiser? Was Spinx bros just a blown up LHWs who beat Ali and Holmes?
Marciano’s walk around weight was 210. He would train down to 188 as ALL the good fighters trained down then. Now they train up he doesn’t weigh 188 fighting today smh.
Marciano KOs Holmes rather badly. And as far as Sonny goes he if he quit against Ali there’s no way in hell he does 15 w a prime Marciano. Marciano’s opponents list does not compare with the likes of Louis and Ali (no ones does at HW) but it certainly compares with 90 percent of the other HWs as far as beating ranked or formerly ranked individuals.

 

You just don't know when to quit.

 

Great post - total ownage.

 

Perhaps you missed my detailed response?

 

I will quit when somebody can irrefutably prove a prime ATG would be any easy fight for anyone.

That’s the only notion I am responding to.

 

Lol look more casual fan logic. First off Marciano wasn't all time great. He was a slow no talent club fighter who was lucky to fight in the era with so poor talent and had mob backings. Second based off your logic since Floyd Mayweather Jr is a all time great that means Mike Tyson would struggled with him right? Marciano was a 180 pounds. Marciano wasn't even good for 180 pound standards. But lets say he was the best 180 pound fighter off all time. How does that equate to him being able to compete against guys much bigger than him? That is why we have weight classes you sad biased casual boxing fan.

 

I agree with everything you typed until you said Liston a heavyweight would need 7 rounds to knock out a blown up 185 pound club fighter like Marciano. Bob Foster was 6'3 and 175 to 185 pounds. He was considered a monster puncher at that weight. What happened when Foster fought even smaller heavyweights like Joe Frazier? His power had no effect and he was knocked stupid in 2 rounds. Marciano would be knocked out stupid by any half way decent heavyweight in their primes from Joe Frazier, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, Tyson, Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko to Anthony Joshua.

 

Lol Holyfield weighed the same as Rocky when he started out. And Moore beat every top contender then to earn his shot and was undefeated at hW till that point. Charles was only 32 hardly past it and certainly passes the eye test as far as skills are concerned.

 

Well pretty much all of the guys you named weren't heavyweights by modern standards. By modern standards they guys were light heavyweights or smaller cruiserweights. So if Archie Moore did beat all of these guys that would means he beat light heavyweights and cruiserweights.

 

The best contenders who Rocky didn’t fight during his time as champion were Clarance Henry, Bob Baker and Nino Valdes. Moore beat all three of them.


Sys Charles And Jackson And Neuhaus were beaten by Valdes who Moore beat.

Wallace was beaten by Charles already

Walls was beaten by Parker who Moore beat.

Bucceroni Was beaten by Baker


Harrison was a lightheavyweight that Charles beat.