Oleksandr Usyk vs. Mairis Briedis revisited

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    We get it. You gobble Wilders balls in your mouth daily.
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Briedis is good enough to be the WBA Regular Heavyweight Champ. He's already knocked out Charr.

    He's not underrated, because he is afraid to move up and fight bigger guys all the time. He prefers to fight smaller boxers because he has a better chance to win that way.

    Wilder is underrated. Because he was in the same division as an amateur as Usyk and Briedis and Beterbiev and Hunter and those guys, and Wilder chose to turn pro as a heavyweight - even though most guys are WAY heavier than he is - and not feast on guys HIS OWN SIZE or smaller.

    And Wilder has become a successful world heavyweight champion, while they fight light heavys and cruisers.

    So they aren't "underrated." They just were afraid to fight bigger people. (And clearly they can. Usyk beat guys like Joyce in the WSB. Briedis knocked out Charr.) But it was easier to be a professional cruiserweight - or light heavy, in Beterbiev's case.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    How many actual professional fights on their professional record at HW do they have?

    Until then they are cruisers, and part of the reason cruiser >>> the other divisions in boxing. Follow the actual argument I was making please.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    Until then?

    Briedis has had at least 11 professional heavyweight fights, including a knockout over Charr at heavyweight in the pros.

    Usyk fought as a super heavyweight in the WSB for a couple years (which was paid boxing). He had at least three Super Heavyweight fights when he beat Joe Joyce.

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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I picked Briedis to beat Gassiev back when they announced the WBSS, and to be the last man standing against Usyk, because I considered him the second most talented fighter in the division... oh well, the order played out a little differently than I anticipated. But that's only because he and Gassiev didn't meet. He's deceptively heavy handed, KO'd Charr cold in his only fight at Heavyweight. Has perhaps the fastest hands and throws the best combinations, has the best footwork and is all around the most skilled overall at Cruiserweight outside of Usyk. So yeah I rated him highly. He injured during the Huck fight and against Mikaelian. I expect him to handle Glowacki with ease.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    I think you'd better go back and check his record. I don't think fighting guys who weighed in at 210, 220, 245 counts as cruiserweight.

    Nearly half has pro fights have been at heavyweight. But he keeps going after cruiserweight titles instead.

    Would Briedis rather fight Glowacki for a WBC Silver cruiserweight belt or Dillian Whyte for a WBC Silver heavyweight belt?
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh shut the **** up, if using that standard everyone at Cruiserweight is a Heavyweight, you can use that logic with every division in the sport. Charr was 245 pounds for their fight, the only real Heavyweight. Is that better?
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    No, it's not BETTER. He's had 11 heavyweight fights. Go look.
     
  9. BCS8

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    OK so 1 (one) fight at HW between the two of them. Pretty sure they're still part of the cruiserweight division. On the 15/06 Breidis is fighting Glowacki for cruiser titles.

    Again: Cruiserweight >>> heavyweight.
     
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  10. CST80

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    Grow up.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    How did you come up with one? Briedis has at least 11 by himself?

    Are you having a problem converting pounds to kilograms? (LOL)

    He fought Danny Williams, for God's sake. When was Danny Williams EVER a cruiserweight?
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    You're the one who wants to pretend.
     
  13. BCS8

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    Point to the fights and what the weigh in weights were. You're the one claiming this.

    I see that he has some bottom-of-the-barrel scrapings on his resume of guys that have fought at HW before. I'm not sure that really qualifies as Breidis taking part in the HW division in a meaningful way.

    Regardless, CW >>> HW.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Have you actually followed his career or did you just start watching?

    Good Lord. Yes, the all-time cruiserweight Danny Williams ... who fought Vitali Klitschko, Mike Tyson, and Briedis.

    Yep. No heavyweight fights for Briedis. Nothing to see here. He didn't win the Bigger's Better Heavyweight tournament, either.

    Just cruiserweights. Only cruiserweights.

    Go back to your make-believe world. Sorry to actually bring up something factual while you're fantasizing.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    So, nothing then. OK.

    CW >>> HW.

    Especially, if, as you claim, CW's are beating up HW's. :D
     
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