After Wilders destruction of Breazeale

The hype is real with Wilder, can't say the same for Joshua. With Joshua it's a case of clever mismatch making and backing from a huge capitalist marketing machine conning the gullible into thinking he is better than he is. Joshua's best win was against a shot Wlad who Fury broke in for him. His recent fights - being unable to get rid of takam without a homer stoppage from the referee and not able to stop Parker; Wilder would of got both out with ease.

 

Thanks bud

 

His best win was against Ortiz, a man who Joshua or his team didn't want until they'd seen him in with Wilder. His best performance, as I know what you are angling at, is against Fury and that gives us a more accurate measure of where he's at.

 

Very different fighters, mate. Joshua was very meticulous against Parker and Takam after the war with Klitschko. Why have a war and put the mileage on the clock if you can comfortably outbox them? The way he dispatched of Povetkin was very impressive. He set traps for him and showed his class. Let’s not forget that Wilder also has a capitalist marketing machine behind him, too.

 

Dom Breazeale is pretty **** tbh and the reason why he was chosen was because he was always going to be a highlight reel ko..

Its all very well ko'ing these slow plodders but as Wilder found out the top guys like Fury don't just sit in front of u waiting for a right hand to come, or ignoring a threat of a right hand as Breazeale did..

If AJ has improved anywhere it is in defense and patience so it will all come down to who blinks first and what they will do when plan A isn't working..

 

Of course the AJ hype is real, f**king hell, look what he's already done in his career, where were any of the top current Heavyweights after 22 fights? He's done fantastically well and beaten everyone that has been put in front of him and I believe he could continue to do so, whoever he faces.

I don't get how the main factor appears to be "when Wilder lands", what about when AJ lands, we've seen Wilder getting caught, we've seen AJ's power, and it's very f**king real. You don't have to like a boxer to understand that they are decent, Joshua is now elite level, whether anyone likes it or not. After 22 professional fights that's pretty impressive.

 

True but you could then say that Price was very close to a spectacular stoppage against Povetkin, until Joshua goes in with either Wilder or Fury we won't know. I just don't think he that he is the best because he holds the belts. You could argue Wlad put Joshua down, something he couldn't do against Fury, but then wilder had Fury down twice so does that mean wilder would do the same to Joshua? We don't know until they fight but I do think Fury beats Joshua, no doubt.

 

Nobody said Joshua isn't elite, just the hype isn't real. He, in my opinion isn't the best heavyweight as being HYPED up as. Until he goes in and shows he can hang with one of the other two elite fighter's in their prime (something they both did against each other) then he is the one who has it to prove. Not the other way about.

 

Vlad put a less experienced Joshua down, something he couldn't do against Fury. Joshua put Vlad down three times and stopped him, something that Fury couldn't do once. Different fighters, different styles, Joshua the least experienced.

 

Had the Wilder v Fury fight been scored properly then you could argue that Wilder can't hang with the best. Actually there's no argument about it, that sentence alone says all that needs to be said.

 

Had Fury not shown powers of recovery very rarely shown in the sport of boxing then Wilder would of won the fight. This can go round in circles, until Joshua steps up against one of them, in their prime then for me he has an asterisk beside his 'world champion' tag.

 

Fury recovered from a big punch, Wilder got outboxed, that's what happened, that's what we all saw, the judges obviously saw something else.

 

Well then by your same logic earlier, Fury completely outboxed a younger unified champion Wlad, wasn't even close. He then went on to floor Joshua when he was older and shot. I'm not continuing this with you as I don't feel you have the intelligence to hold a constructive debate without going back over yourself.