Who will takeover the next generation at HW

Gorman actually probably one of the most well balanced HW's but DDD should be to big a unit for him.

 

No embelishment on my part, let me break it down for you as you seem confused:

Power is one thing... for example Wilder vs Joshua vs Foreman vs Tyson... all different types of power. They say power is speed... but power is it's own component, when you combine Foreman like leverage and torque with Tyson like explosiveness you get Wilder.

When I say power, I was referring to punching power/ classification. Gorman for example DOES NOT have the kind of power Dubois generates in his punches.

Athleticism is your physical abilities when you perform in the ring as a boxing athlete, i.e. , your reflexes, your mobility, your body co-ordination, endurance, speed etc.

So no they are not the same, because clearly you can have someone who is athletic, but still doesn't punch as hard as someone else who is athletic. Power is a separate genetic gift, based off your mechanical and physical attributes.


And no, Whyte is not a hype job, he is pretty much proven, and I bet your ass that he will get further than Hrgovic... you can quote me on that.

 

I'm just being real with my assessment, the truth is too much to handle for some ***** cats on this forum, they take it personally like when I said Usyk won't handle Joshua in a fight, not because Usyk is a worse boxer, nah he is better, but it won't be enough for him to beat Joshua.

It's just objectivity and realism.... Dubois physical attributes, killer instict and his punch power will take him much further than Gorman, and will win him more and harder fights along the line. It sucks that this is how life is.... but that;s how the cookie crumbles.

Wilder is weak as a boxer, but he can nullify the best boxer on the planet with his limited attributes.

 

I know athleticism doesnt always equal power, I was simply stating I disagree with who can go far, I feel they are hype jobs. Dillan Whyte is going to get knocked out by Joshua (again) and Wilder. People thought Parker could beat Joshua, just like you think highly of Whyte, you too will suffer the same disappointment.

 

Spot on for the most part , but Wilder won't nullify Joshua. .

Guys that will severely trouble Wilder due to styles ( no pun intended , Breazeale ) is in order. .

Joshua.
Fury
Hrgovic
Whyte
Joyce

Whyte vs Hrgovic would be very interesting, I would slightly favor Whyte but watch out for that guy.

 

Makhmudov
Usyk

 

The difference is, I never said Whyte would beat Joshua, or Wilder, I said he has the strongest chance to beat those two out of any other contenders... I never said Whyte was a 50/50 chance with Joshua... if you go back in time I specifically said he had a 42.5 per chance against Joshua.

Whyte is the strongest contender on the planet right now, he is a weak boxer albeit better than Wilder, but I FULLY trust in his ability to WIN a fight... except maybe againt Fury.

So just relax because Dubois is fighting Gorman soon, and you are going to witness exactly what I've been saying... Dubois has some serious talent, and serious physical gifts.... he will be a problem for many in the future given his young age.

Hrgovic looks slick against weak opponents, when he steps up it will be another Hughie Fury scenario.

You should give Whyte more credit, he lost to Joshua and improved IMMENSELY, Breazeale on the other hand.... still kept his bad habits.

Whyte is an inspiration that you can start extremely late, and still evolve to mix it with world class opponents, most people FOLD when in with Joshua.... I GUARANTEE YOU that if he fought Joshua again he would give Joshua a VERY DIFFICULT fight... PLEASE QUOTE ME.

 

I dont even like Gorman or think highly of him, so I dont know where you got that from.
Just prepare to be wrong in the future when your predictions are completely wrong or partially.

 

Yeah I hope we get a chance to see these fights, but I still feel Wilders power is just too devastating, and it only takes one punch where has no problem finding his opponent eventually.

I rewatched Whyte vs Joshua... and Joshua took a LOT OF punches.... he has no head movement... and he hasn't improved his head movement either it's just his style...

And he won't be able to keep Wilder at range like he did with Parker because Wilder is taller and just as rangy if not more rangy...

Whyte vs Hrgovic... what we've learnt in the heavyweight division is that skill and talent aren't the only key attributes, heart, grit and determiniation can be the equalizer... and Whyte has been in very deep waters and come through, Hrgovic has not been through that type of adversity to enter the championship rounds with someone like Whyte.

Whyte can make life extremely difficult for everyone in the division given his power and his pressure and weaponry .... except with Fury because Fury is great at moving, and Whyte is not great at aiming.

 

That's what I call a brave prediction.

 

You have to grow with the fighter.

I just pointed out to a head case on here why Breazeale got knocked out in round one and it was bc he threw the worst punch possible AFTER taking a full on point right hand and that was a lazy left uppercut.

Aggressive counter puncher would be Wilders worst nightmare, and we know who it is with a height of 6'6 and 82 inches of reach.

The rest of the guys are really the ones that need to be extremely careful but they can win.


If we are still being truthful , Wilder is not the WBC champion , Fury is. Wilder has been nullified himself. Lol

 

Fair point, he did lose to Fury - thanks for reminding me lol... It's a miracle Fury got up from the canvas, I wonder if Joshua could do the same?

At the moment, from everything I've seen by both Joshua and Wilder I call it 50/50... Wilder can take a punch, as can Joshua, both can deliver punches with the same efficiency.... but for Wilder it only takes on punch to cause a stoppage, Joshua it takes multiple and that provides the opponent a small chance to survive.

Breazeale made many stupid mistakes, he just terrible and cannot improve imo... his punch aim was always terrible... just not a natural puncher...

 

Gorman

 

Joshua was tired and at his highest weight of that fight. The punch he was hit with was a full fledged one and from Klitschko who does arguably hit harder then then all with THAT punch.

People are severely ignoring Joshuas durability.

Joshua is a master at hand positioning and working over and under an opponents set ups. This is important bc Wilder loves to drag opponents front guard down to come over with the right hand.

Not going to be so easy bc Wlads even better at it and AJ will have Wilders game down to a science, Wilder will have no answers for such a fast powerful guy.

I knew the Wlad match up like the back of my hand , I even said there would be multiple knockdowns.

Wilder is going to look very bad in that fight if it happens....watch. Joshua had never been past 7 rounds prior to Wlad and got the K.O in 11....this is all I need really but there's so much more telling me it's a one sided fight.

 

Those two are NOT going far. Lol Sirenko will abuse Dubois worse than he did to him in sparring and Ajabagaga isn’t impressive in the least. Look at all the holes in his game. Hrgovic would knock him the **** out.

Usyk, Sirenko, Hrgovic, Fury will all be at the top. Usyk schools all of them.