Grandpa Ortiz is next for Wilder then Winnie Pooh Kownacki

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  1. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Not one moderator has ever called Claressa Shields, not Fields, a ****** on here, that's a blatant lie. Refrain from making false accusations about the moderators of this this forum in the future. Take that as a stern warning. No one is being sensitive here but you, you're the belligerent one, who comes across like a ranting baby, aggressively responding that way to anything but argumentative mean spirited posts. If you get that worked up over guys as agreeable as @Angler Andrew and @Rockradar tells me its you anger issues. Chill out, there's no need for your false bravado, tough guy. Act like a civil human being.
     
  2. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I haven't called you any names bro. I'm not into typing tough.

    Upon reviewing youre posts you dont seem to like any of the new heavyweights but you do like Adam Kownacki. Is he your favourite?
     
  3. CarlChilders

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    Being a better puncher has nothing to do with being a better fighter. Arreola smashing Molina in 1 round shows you how overrated Wilder and Joshua are for taking long. Wilder taking 9 rounds to stop Szpilka while Kownacki doing it much easier shows you how overrated Wilder's power is. Kownacki smashing Gerald Washington in 2 while Wilder took 5 shows you how overrated Wilder's power is. Wilder taking 11 to stop Johann Duhaupas while old Alexander Povetkin doing it easier shows how overrated Wilder's power is. Wilder took 4 to knock out Jason Gavern. Various other guys did it before Wilder and did it easier.

    Here is Deontay Wilder's career fight record. Give me one world glass guy who was still in his prime that Wilder even fought. [url]http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/468841[/url]
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    No, styles make fights casual. If Wilder pressed forward with no defense like a madman unloading on Gerald Washington and Artur Szpilka from the opening bell, the matches may have lasted a round. But that's not how Wilder fights is it? He takes the conservative approach, and looks for openings. Going by your logic, Kiladze was KO'd by Hunter quicker than he was against Kownacki, I guess that means Hunter's power>>>>>Wilder's right Jesus Christ.:lol: How childish of you.
     
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  5. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah but you keep missing my point. Arreola beat Molina faster than Wilder and Joshua did, but Wilder beat Molina.

    Boxer A beating boxer C faster than boxer B did, doesnt automatically mean boxer A would beat boxer B now does it? Theres a lot to factor in as each fight is unique. Wouldn't you agree?
     
  6. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member banned Full Member

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    So you are telling me that they didn't call me stupid first? Did you warn them? Of course you didn't. I am getting sensitive. I call casual fans casual fans. I get called stupid and it is okay apparently? Me acting like a a tough guy? Yeah me using the term casual just for you the moderator to call me a hole.I rant? Because grown men get so sensitive over their boxing heroes? I don't need grown men too look up too. I call it the way it is. If you are a casual fan then you are a casual fan. I don't know how typing that is offensive or me ranting. I have anger issues? Again why? Because I destroy most people here with my boxing knowledge and it is too much for them to handle? I thought this was a forum where grown men could type/talk about boxing. I didn't know this was the female boxing forum where everybody is so sensitive and every time somebody types something they don't like they either report you the moderator or the modern themselves get offended.
     
  7. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where have I called you stupid? prove it and I will apologise and ban myself instantly. I promise you. Please provide the proof.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    Also, its being consistently left out the circumstances of Arreola's stoppage over Molina, it was Molina that had Cristobal hurt and in bad shape, and was going for the kill, he got over aggressive, like many have in the past, like say... BJS against Isufi over the weekend, walked into a massive counter from a huge puncher like Arreola and he paid for it dearly.
     
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  9. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ahh another good point.
     
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  10. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally I wanted to see the AJ vs Ortiz fight cos I know AJ smashes him and would finally kill off the fake-news myth that Ortiz is a "bogeyman"
     
  11. CarlChilders

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    Oh look you called me childish. Isn't that a insult or because you are the moderator you can type what you want? I just listed numerous fights casual where Wilder took longer to knock out the same opponent that other guys knocked out quicker. Ooh you name one fight against two people nobody cares about. Yep you sure proved me wrong. You are going to flat out dismiss every other point I typed right. Deontay Wilder was moving straight forward landing numerous flush punches against Molina. When he did knock Eric down he got up. When Arreola knocked him down he stayed down. Povetkin laid Johann Duhaupus out. Wilder took 11 round stop him on his feet. Wilder landed numerous flush punches on a broken down Arreola and still coudln't put him away. The ref or corner stopped it. Bermaine Stiverne knocked Arreola stupid. I guess you will flat out dismiss those fights right? You are going to dismiss the fact that Chris Arreola a man who got in the ring with Wilder has stated Stiverene and Vitali Klitshko punched harder than Wilder right? Because what does Chris know. Sure he got in the ring and got punched in the face by them. But you are the moderator of a internet boxing forum. You clearly know more about Wilder's power than Chris does.
     
  12. CST80

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    I didn't see anyone call you stupid. You're coming across like a raving lunatic, I merely noticed it. Whether that's your intent or not, that's how it reads. Talk away, be my guest, but like I said, quit escalating a situation, that isn't hostile or angry to begin with. No one reported you for the record, I just happened to notice your grouchy tone.
     
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  13. CarlChilders

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    Did I type that kid? I typed who has more punching power. My point is Wilder's power is overrated. He knocked out Breazeale quicker than AJ. That is it. Breazeale walked right into that punch. You know why? Because he hurt Wilder and was moving in to do more damage. Breazeale couldn't do anything against AJ so he ran. Similar to Molina against Wilder. Molina was moving Wilder back. Because he hurt him . Molina was walking into Wilder's power and it still took him longer. Molina hurt Chris Arreola as well. But Chris still destroyed him much easier than Wilder did. Wilder has been fighting 12 years and is still fighting tomato cans like Breazeale.

    This just shows you how bad this heavyweight crop is. A old fat Foreman fought guys like Shannon Briggs when he was 48 and people had something to say. Briggs is a better fighter than Breazeale.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    No sense of humor either I see. You're a real piece of work.:lol:

    Yes, I could dismantle every argument you've thrown my way, but I care so little about the Heavyweight division that I don't want to waste my time. Every one of the arguments you're making, are the arguments of a casual fan. You're trying way too hard to prove yourself, if anyone is the casual here, I have a HUGE sneaking suspicion, it might just be you. o_O
     
  15. CarlChilders

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    And Molina didn't have Wilder hurt so he kept walking in for the kill right? Both Wilder and Arreola got hurt. The point is Chris smashed Molina right after he got hurt. Wilder took what 5 more rounds to stop him? You want more facts? Eric Molina isn't a good fighter to began with. So Wilder fighting him in a title fight shows you how bad the heavyweight division is.