Wilder weight.......

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by delboy82, May 21, 2019.


  1. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did the wilder - Breazeale fight have VADA testing?
     
  2. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Na when aj is accused they bring up up much weight he gained in a short period of time and imo they are right.

    You were the one that brought up physique when that has nothing to do with it. Like I said comparing physiques is pointless.. Miller and St Iverne use gear and are obese.

    My suspicion is based on the muscle mass gains of which wilder gained over 5% muscle mass in under 6 months is very suspicious.. They sorta gains would only be seen by a novice guy who hasn't lifted before and even then that would be a push. For those who know 10lb muscle gain for an established athlete in under 6 months is very rare even more so when that guy has to factor in a lot of cardio work.

    Look mate I have a Bsc in physiology and take an interest in bodybuilding, I have a rough idea of what I'm talking about without being an expert.
     
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  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wbc didn't list them as testers for this fight and I can't find anything saying they both signed up for it?
     
  4. Hankey89

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    Physiques have nothing to do with it? What are you going on about?

    To attain a physique like Joshua, you would rather need 1 in ten million genetics, or be on PEDS. That's why he gets accused, and yes people will list other reasons, but the primary reason, is his ridiculous body.

    To gain a physique like Wilders is attainable for most people naturally.

    Wilder didn't put on 5% in lean muscle mass, he gained 5 percent in total weight... there is a huge difference in the two. A 6 foot 7 guy added 10 pounds to a slim physique in 6 months whilst staying relatively lean. You don't require steroids to achieve that, you don't need to be a beginner weight lifter to achieve that.
     
  5. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I made a thread after the weigh in.
     
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  6. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again wilder was not slim when he fought fury he was ripped.. He wasn't huge like aj but he is still a very muscular dude compared to a normal person. To gain the amount of muscle wilder gained in under 6 months (he looked lean and defined to me still) naturally may be normal to a person who hasn't been in a gym but for an established guy who has lifted plenty through his career and would be doing a lot of cardio gaining that amount is doubtful, especially if you take deontays word that he struggles to put on the weight.

    The very best body builders in the world put on at the max 15/20lbs in muscle over the span of a year. The very very max, most average berween 10/12 lbs a year and they are on massive amounts of gear with no testing and zero cardio.

    The facts the we have are:
    When wilder hadn't been signed up to vada he has gained weight, when he hasn't been signed to vada he has lost weight.

    Coincidence maybe, I aint buying it though.

    Also to add to this taller people do not gain muscle mass quicker or slower than shorter people. The size of u body has nothing to do with that a bigger frame just takes longer to LOOK more muscular. The type of body u have determines this NOT the size, for eg Mesomorph,Endomorph,Ectomorph etc. Wilder defo looks more Ectomorph going by his physique and comments meaning he will struggle far more than others to gain and keep muscle on. He will need to have a far higher calorie intake that others, need longer rests and bare minimum cardio work in order to gain the same amount of muscle as say an endomorph. I didn't wanna get a little more technical as it can be a boring read but this is the science behind it.... Unless you are on the gear of course!!
     
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  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cool bud... Didnt see it, just catching up after being away on holiday.