How prevalent was body punching in bareknuckle fighting?

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  1. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Just wanted to know. I assume with the added risk of breaking your hand on someone's rib or elbow, it'd be risky to go for body blows with an ungloved punch.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Probably still safer than a head shot.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Well your more likely to break your hand on a punch to the head so I Imagine it was very prevalent
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think it's prevelence gets really overstated actually.

    They could use throws to wind opponents, and due to the rules you're not going to get the kind of body shot KO you get with modern rules.

    In general looking at the reports they seemed to hit to the head plenty, though body punching was still very much part of the sport. I get the impression head punching was still more common than body punching.
     
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  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    You'd only break your hand if you had poorly conditioned hands or if you threw a haymaker to the forehead. If you aimed for the chin you shouldve been fine
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Honestly, I've read some stuff but there are people better read on the techniques.

    It is worth noting the bareknuckle period was over 200 years, so there's massives differences between something like Captain Godfrey's manuel Vs Daniel Mendoza's manuel Vs a late 1800's manuel.

    I would note that modern bareknuckle is very different from historic bareknuckle, and I don't think you can take that much away from historic bareknuckle from the modern stuff (though I still find it interesting).

    There are some HEMA people interested in the old techniques, the YouTube channel English Martial Arts is probably the most prominent one.

    This is worth watching, especially slowed down too
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    There's also some footage of Jack McAuliffe, but he's basically just goofing about
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I saw on a TV program called QI the host state that most punches in the bareknuckle days were thrown to the body because too many punches to the head would damage your hands, but I saw a youtube vid that stated bareknuckle fighters punched with the palm of their fist avoiding using their knuckles.
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    2:23 They struck with the palm of their hand by twisting the arm as they punched.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If we started LPR bouts again next year, we would pretty much have to reinvent the wheel.

    We would have to start with the old manuals, and take it from there.

    Given the obvious difficulties associated with putting somebody down for 30/38 seconds with a head shot. my inclination would be to invest in a body attack, until the opponent could no longer make scratch.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The British police call that move "bottom fisting!"
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Was it illegal?!
     
  12. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who made it legal for you start posting again, Steve? That should have been illegal.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I better watch what I say, next time it`s a permanent ban.
     
  14. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What did you say?
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No, it is a prescribed move.

    Makes writing up reports awkward I'm told!