Create the Ultimate HW

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Take Attributes from different HWs in History and complie them in a list

    Heart -
    Stamina -
    Power -
    Chin -
    Defence -
    Footwork -
    Hand Speed -
    Ring IQ -

    Then add Size, Stance, Style and Reach

    Then pick your punches!

    Jab -
    Cross -
    Right Hook -
    Left Hook -
    Left Uppercut -
    Right Uppercut -
    Overhand -
    Body Blows -

    Then add some swag, throw in a nickname and an actual name

    This entire thread was taken from Mark so... Please don't ban me
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Heart - Joe Frazier
    Stamina - Ike Ibeabuci
    Power - Sonny Liston
    Chin - George Chuvalo
    Defence - Jersey Joe
    Footwork - Jersey Joe
    Hand Speed - Floyd Patterson
    Ring IQ - Lennox Lewis

    Orthodox
    6'3, 83", 225lbs

    My style would be like Larry Holmes, accept more agressive, a higher frequency of combinations and much more walking forward

    All with Listons power

    Jab - Larry Holmes
    Cross - Joe Louis
    Right Hook - Joe Louis
    Left Hook - Tommy Morrison
    Left Uppercut - Lennox Lewis
    Right Uppercut - Lennox Lewis
    Overhand - Riddick Bowe
    Body Blows - Joe Frazier

    His name would be John Scott (so people on boxing forums 40 years on can spell it right) and my nickname would be the Manchester Marauder
     
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  3. Knights107

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    Heart
    Stamina Marciano
    Power Foreman
    Chin Ali
    Defence jack johnson
    Footwork Ali
    Hand Speed Joe Louis
    Ring IQ Tunney

    Size 6'3 82" 225lbs
    Stance orthodox
    Style holyfield 96 but little bit aggressive (with jab first)

    Then pick your punches!

    Jab Holmes
    Cross louis
    Right Hook Baer
    Left Hook Dempsey
    Left Uppercut jack johnson
    Right Uppercut Lewis
    Overhand Wladimir
    Body Blows Frazier

    actual name black johnson
    Nickname Nemesis
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I fear for your opponents if your throwing Dempsey left hooks with Foreman's power at the speed of Joe Louis
     
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  6. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heart - Holyfield
    Stamina - Frazier
    Power - Foreman
    Chin - Mercer
    Defence - Byrd
    Footwork - Fury
    Hand Speed - Patterson
    Ring IQ - Ali

    Switch hitter
    6'5, 85", 240lbs

    Style - Holyfield going forward, Byrd going back.

    Jab - Holmes
    Cross - Lewis
    Right Hook - Moorer
    Left Hook - Tyson
    Left Uppercut - Ruddock
    Right Uppercut - Foreman
    Overhand - Bowe
    Body Blows - Cooney

    The name is Jake Thunderfoot
    Nickname - 911
     
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  7. Knights107

    Knights107 Member Full Member

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    Big Guy with long range
    :beer-toast1:
     
  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    It's a fun thread, so don't take this as critisism, but I think the problem is there are always trade offs or things that don't gell.

    Like Jersey Joe Walcott had better footwork than Jack Dempsey, but I think giving Dempsey Walcott's footwork would actually make him worse, as it just wouldn't suit how he fought.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    That's fair, and that's why I added the style, Evander Holyfield would be even more of a beast if he had Dempsey head movement
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Like I said don't take it as criticism, it's still a good thread.

    I posted an article by Lavigne in his thread. It's a bit of an unpleasant read, but is still worth going through.

    Anyway in it he comments how being short himself made it much easier to target the body against tge original Walcott.

    I'm not actually sure to what extent heiggt itself is an advantage overall, I think it's more that it goes with a bigger frame and reach. It can be in some situations, but not in others.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    That is pretty interesting. I'd say Height is an advantage for those who can use it, like Lewis and Klitschko. But in the same way being small is an advantage for those who can use it like Tyson and Frazier
     
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    Heart- Joe Frazier
    Stamina- Marciano
    Power- George foreman
    Chin- George chuvalo
    Defense- Walcott
    Footwork- Ali
    Hand speed- floyd Patterson
    Ring IQ- Ali

    6"7 ft
    85in reach
    Switch hitter

    Jab- Larry Holmes
    Cross- joe Louis
    Right hook- Tyson
    Left hook- Joe Frazier
    Both uppercuts- Mike Tyson
    Overhand- riddick Bowe
    Body blows- Frazier

    And his nickname would be grapefruit
     
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