Gerry Cooney VS Razor Ruddock

Right Foreman is one person. So because Foreman says something then it must be true? Foreman lies constantly in his older age. He also said he never wanted to fight Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, or Riddick Bowe. He also says now that he would be afraid of Deontay Wilder and how he couldn't beat Tyson Fury. Foreman stated before that his younger self would destroy this older self. Now he says the older Foreman would beat the younger Foreman. Foreman stated that he sparred Quarry and he could never beat Quarry. Quarry himself stated he only sparred Foreman a few rounds when George was younger and Foreman was by far the strongest man he ever been in the ring with.

So my point stands and your point is invalid like the typical casual fan. Pretty much every boxer who fought both Tyson and Morrison have stated that Tommy Morrison punched harder than Tyson. Cooney didn't punch harder than Tyson. Those are the facts.

 

I think Cooney just because he seems to explode earlier than Ruddock, who seems to settle in before he lands. So the guy who lands first wins.

 

Morrison also fought a boxers fight. If he committed he is there to be countered.

 

Right just like the typical arrogant casual fan you will ignore the other stupid things Foreman said in his comeback right just to try to prove your little point. I explained how Foreman lied about never wanting to fight Tyson, Bowe, and Lewis when he called out each of these fighters. You can find tons of times where Foreman has lied and or contradicted himself when he was older. But hey if you want to believe everything Foreman says just to prove your little point then good. But just like every other casual fan on this site who doesn't know their boxing you get ignored. Interesting....

 

At their best I pick Cooney. On an average night for both, I pick Razor

 

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Gerry Cooney would knock Razor Ruddock out. Cooney could set up his power much better than Ruddock. He didn't have to leave himself that wide open

 

Minor league trolling

 

I think this might have been possible of the Holmes Cooney, sure.

It's strange to me how Gerry just seemed to fall apart after the Holmes fight, turning practically worthless. I wonder if perhaps that fight was like Frazier and the FOTC: he got up so much for it (probably at least in part due to the pre-fight hoopla) that he lost something during it.

One of the things that made the Holmes fight so interesting to me was how Larry made somewhat of a tactical error in the second round; I mean, he exhibited the patience and pacing of a true champion, however I think he misjudged Gerry and should have finished him (back then Larry was quite the finisher). I also think it (the 2nd round knockdown) really woke Cooney up (he didn't do too much before or during that round) from the embarrassment and he fought by far the greatest fight of his life after that (well, a couple of rounds or so after). Which again makes me think of Joe and how the FOTC changed him after because of the great effort he put forth (in his case greatly due to Ali's vicious taunting and not to mention Ali smacking the crap out of him in the early rounds).

 

Cooney had 2 managers and an overrated trainer who all had absolutely no confidence in him and were just looking at him at a White Hope cash cow. It was his team turning down fight after fight in the meantime destroying there mans confidence. Holmes himself said if he wasnt around Cooney had the talent to be Champ.
Everyone wants to blame Cooney. Cooney would have fought anybody. The man overcame a highly abusive Father only to fall into the hands of these 3 idiots.
Cooney with say A Lou Duva as Manager and a George Benton as trainer who instilled confidence with aggressive match making could have presented a whole different fighter back then that could have changed the landscape of boxing.
I stick by my prediction of a Cooney KO over Razor despite all this.

 

Razor Ruddock for me

 

Thaks Robert

 

I wouldn't compare him to Frazier because Joe had already climbed the mountain and been on top for quite awhile when George came along.
Cooney's issues were emotional. The pressure they put on him and feeling he let down so many people. He didn't see it as fighting a good fight (which he did). He viewed it as failure..
In a nutshell his addiction took over.