Jung Koo Chang - Who would beat him?

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Just hurry up and die you silly old ***** and stop replying to me.
     
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  2. The Morlocks

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    There you go. The true Flea arrives. The real Flea I wanted new posters to see. You had hid so well. I KNEW you had not changed. Bye bye.
     
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  3. BundiniBlack

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    Why are yall matching him with Flyeweights?

    He was a lightfly. At that weight I only favor Chocolatito Gonzalez and Lopez over him. Possibly Inoue. I think he is 50/50 against Arce and Carbajal. He beats Nietes Saman and Calderon
     
  4. roughdiamond

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  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now there are 2 Chang threads on page 1. This is not gonna make Morlocks happy. You done did it now bro! It’s lit
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Doubtful. Chang lost to the best punchers he fought. He had a losing record vs the best he’d fought. What’s his best win again?

    You might as well start at flyweight. Most past greats were retired before this jr division was born.

    108 or 112. I’d bet most guys who fight at 108 are at least 112 pounds after a rehydration.

    Boxing would be better of without a jr fly division. You’d get more depth at 112 by combining the divisions and therefore a better champion.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Harda is better for sure. The question is would Chang fight out if Korea?. If Harda went to Korea there is a good chance he will be robbed.
     
  8. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Chang deserves appreciation.

    Besides, he was better than Gushiken anyway.
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

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    Yes, he was batter than Gushiken....but Yoko is one of my favorites to watch.
     
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  10. roughdiamond

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    Smooth boxer, for sure.
    Mofo with a 'fro.
    Brilliant in action.
     
  11. Tin_Ribs

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    We had a flyweight tourney on here years back with all the old crowd who had great knowledge of the lower weights iirc and I think Chang got to the final but lost to Harada, which is probably quite accurate in terms of who he'd beat imo.

    I think he'd beat Canto how Flea said. That type of light-hitting slip/counter at mid range mostly with the lead hand is ill-suited to defeating a great swarmer, no matter how brilliant.

    Lopez and Arbachakov too methodical and rigid with Lopez uncomfortable up close and vulnerable to right hands off the back of feints with slower feet. Chang had an excellent chin too, enough to take it on the occasions he might get caught coming in or on the end of Lopez 's long range artillery, though I feel he'd be too quick and consistent closing the gap to take Lopez out of the driver's seat and stifle him. Arbachakov has a better chance imo because his footwork and inside game were superior to Finitos and he proved himself against a better class of career flyweights. Still, a bit too one-paced and low in output to deter Chang for me and lacking in defensive reflexes to compliment his stripped down defensive manoeuvres. His legs were his best defence tbh. More likely of the two to be dragged into uncomfortable waters as was often the case throughout his reign. King of the close decision victory losing out.

    I think Chang would beat Ebihara tbh albeit in a great fight. Ebihara had great feet and was a skilled sharp shooter with power in his left, but again I never thought him the best inside fighter or reflexively gifted/varied on the defensive side. I'm not sure though. Oddly I think Ohba might have been a better shout, though again I'd favour Chang on first thought. Once he got over early jitters and into his groove he was brutally difficult to derail and not the type of fighter you allowed to build momentum. A close fight with someone like Betulio gives me pause for thought though.

    What about the Borkhorsor who stopped Gonzalez and locked out Salavarria? That guy must have been monstrous at flyweight. He was a mini tank even at bantam and a skilled, clever one at that. I don't know that Chang would let him settle or be a kind stylistic foil though.

    I haven't seen enough of Wilde or Perez to comment with confidence. Perez possibly a good dark horse shout?

    If Park hadn't been a mental midget I'd have given him as good a shout as anyone other than Masahiko I think. One of the Mount Rushmore faces of the naturally gifted prodigies of Eastern Asian boxing along with Chang, Harada and Payakaroon imo.
     
  12. Golden_Feather99

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    And most guys who fight at 112 are at least 115 after rehydration.
     
  13. Tin_Ribs

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    I could see Laciar at his best giving Chang a very good fight. So solid, well rounded and strong with the ability to mix up his approach. I suspect though that Chang gets by on sheer talent roughly how someone like Ibarra did.
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

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    Don’t feed the trolls
     
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  15. PhillyPhan69

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    How might Betulio Gonzalez fare? At 25 y/o 1974 he was weighing in at 109 vs Udella and Oguma I.
     
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