Ruiz has just exploded the myth of the superheavyweight

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  1. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield against the current heavyweights anyone?
     
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    Usyk would have boxed Joshua’s ****ing face in for 8-9 rounds than finished him off with a flurry on the ropes after Joshua tires out trying to catch Usyk and keep up with his movement.


    Lol This year and the early part of 2020 will be a real heartbreaker for you :D
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll ignore your tone and try to spell its out for you....probably a waste of time, but.anyway...


    The OP said...
    " There's been a prevailing myth that you need to be 6'5 + and 250lbs"

    ...making the claim that a boxer had to be over 6'5" and over 250 lbs to be considered a superheavyweight.

    Currently, there are three fighters in the division that are considered superheavyweights....AJ, Wilder and Fury.

    All three of them have the Height the OP mentioned, but only two of them have the Weight, the third one being a lot lighter.

    So it might be that the criteria could be 6'5 +
    OR 250lbs, in which was, Ruiz would be in the club too.



    Anyway, the "myth" was shattered years ago with RahmanKO Lewis, Brewster KO Wlad, Byrd TKO Vitali and many other examples.
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You really have some issue or such. Andy is obese at 268lbs and he's short. You whacked as **** if you think or are trying to argue that Andy had some advantage being 268lbs, a huge portion of which he carries like a ****ing tire around his belly with his short height as an advantage. Clearly you are the crazy.
     
  5. cuchulain

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    No issue.

    Just making some valid points.

    You're the dude that's foaming at the mouth.

    I've explained my position, point by point.

    You've come back with vitriolic rants so full of deletions as to be unintelligible.


    No, he's 6'2", taller than 85 % of all males in the world


    And what does this bit even mean ?


    He stated in an interview before the fight that he did not want to shed any more weight as that weight gave him his power. And after watching that power this evening, who are we to argue.

    Not that this has anything to do with the points made, which sailed right over your head.
     
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  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haha, he did not want to shed weight.... He's been trying to shed weight or has said he would for years. And its not his power that is his big advantage, its his handspeed and boxing craft. Again you really are ****ing nuts.
     
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  7. Rock0052

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    In the long run, over the course of years and thousands of fights, 'tis no myth.

    In the short run, anything can happen. Outliers happen, and that's one of the greatest things about the sport. The script is the script for a reason, but not every fight goes according to it.
     
  8. cuchulain

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    His power is a significant part of his arsenal.
     
  9. Camaris

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    Does one upset change a general rule? Of course there are times when an excellent talent who is smaller than the 6'5 mould will score a win.
     
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  10. cuchulain

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    The great majority of boxers who were over 6'5" never amounted to anything.

    They need other attributes...speed, skill, power, chin etc.

    If they have those, then yes, a good big man usually beats a good smaller man.

    But size is just one of the many variables, and far from the most important one.
     
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  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    To be fair, if you look at the heavyweight division over the last 100 years, 6'2, 230 is pretty close to super heavyweight size as is. Landing between Sonny Liston and George Foreman size wise isn't exactly mini-wheat territory.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    :duh:risas3:
     
  13. Angler Andrew

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    Heavyweight division has always thrown up surprise results,Wlad,Lennox both got done over.
    have to say I didn't see this coming and maybe AJ didnt.
     
  14. cuchulain

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    You da man !

    :wave:
     
  15. thesmokingm

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    Considering you don't jack **** about Ruiz, he's not a big puncher. :duh