Anthony Joshua Was always An Instagram Paper Champion

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  1. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What is boxing without hype, even from casuals it literally keeps the sport afloat, how can you possibly complain about this?
     
  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Of course we need hype and drama, but this was unprecedented and disproportionate while other champions continuously discredited in order to propel a good solid fighter into an ATG without giving any evidence of being one.
     
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  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was he complaining? I didn't see that.

    If anything the one he quoted is piling on the BS. AJ and Hearn thought they had an easy mark. It goes to show how little care they put into this sport by picking Ruiz. Anyone who knows boxing can see in 2 seconds how skilled Ruiz is. However most pass up on him thinking that he is crap because of his body shape. AJ deserves all the flack he gets!
     
  4. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not unprecedented, this is how boxing has been always at least since I've watched it. I mean it was only 6 years ago people were calling Lucian Bute an ATG fighter and stating Pacquiao is/was greater than Ray Robinson. Also how are you going to base your opinion on a fighter by the conduct of some fans? You are literally being influenced to dislike someone through your dislike of them, maybe don't be so easily manipulated like that?
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Look now is the time for rejoicing not to ponder long and hard over justified criticisms.

    Allow me to sing a song

    ''Ding dong the fraud is dead
    The fraud is dead
    The Big Fat Man took his roids and decapitated his head''
     
  6. Delupino

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    Oh dear, do you need to it spelling out for you?

    I'm only defending Joshua against your extremist views. He put in a poor performance and rightly got beaten. The blow to the temple may or may not have played a large part in that but as a professional boxer he is supposed to avoid taking that kind of punch.

    Joshua is not "garbage". If he is, then 99.5% of the heavyweights on the planet are garbage. Come to think of it, that may be true. However, the point is that I don't have a dog in this fight. I was rooting for Ruiz, given the fact he doesn't appear to be a douche, is a family man and was fighting, at least in part, to make history for his cultural identity. Sure, he's a fat American passing himself off as a fat Mexican, but he's got a certain charm all the same.

    I don't see why you need to be so adversarial in this situation. Wilder is just as bad as Joshua and he'll meet his boogeyman soon enough. Fury is the only genuinely talented and versatile name heavyweight around today.
     
  7. derrick

    derrick 6ft4 215 bring it on Full Member

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    Joshua is nothing more than a David Price. Joshua has been exposed and everyone that fights him now knows he can't take a punch. Joshua will never get back those belts. Ruiz will beat him again just like Tony Thompson beat Price again in the rematch. That big Joshua vs. Wilder super fight was flushed down the toilet by Ruiz.
     
  8. Emerald Oracle

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    You're clearly the type who believes all the garbage put out by the MisMatchroom/sky propaganda machine.
     
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  9. Emerald Oracle

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    The comparison to price now appears plausible, will depend on how/if he responds but he was most definitely exposed, and badly. This wasn't just a lose, it was a total beatdown.
     
  10. Delupino

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    Except Price never beat anybody with any kind of respectability in boxing. False comparison is false.

    Joshua's chin is trash. This I do agree. It's eggshell level garbage, punctuated by brittle toffee and ancient bone china. Frankly it's an embarrassment to the abstract concept of a chin, the sort of thing Chuvalo would have suffered in anxiety dreams. I do expect Joshua's opponents in future to try to crack that egg, but if he's wise he'll use that as a ploy to open up said opponents and end fights. At least in the beginning. Then the arms race recommences.

    Let's be honest, Joshua is no great shakes and neither is Ruiz. Neither is Wilder. Neither is Whyte. Klitschko and Povetkin were defeated by age.

    Fury is the sole salvation in this sorry mess.
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This.

    It was a total humiliation on a world level. Casuals look at this as a bullying, they picked a short fatty cuz it was an easy fight. The odds on this were lopsided obviously lol. That he lost in spectacular fashion shows the world he was never fit to be the center of their attention, smoke and mirrors.
     
  12. Delupino

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    Price has never been down four times in a fight, I'll admit that. That's because Price doesn't get up.

    I also agree it was a beatdown. Ruiz roughed him up from the moment he had him hurt.

    I think there are some Price parallels. Price was hit by an equilibrium disrupting shot by Thompson, as was Joshua by Ruiz. The difference was that Price was done after that shot, Joshua at least fought on. We can all play the what could have been game, but it will be interesting to see how the rematch goes if Joshua can avoid a sense scrambling blow.
     
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  13. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not even close, I'm just not easily swayed and can form my own opinion without being influenced by external factors. That kind of fanboy **** is for low iq boxing fans only.
     
  14. Emerald Oracle

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    Correct, they tried their usual cherry picking but what they thought was low hanging fruit turned out to be a poisonous berry.
     
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  15. Delupino

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    I agree with the first part, not so much with the second.

    Joshua got smashed to bits by what most people will see as a fat tub of lard. It was public humiliation in its most acute form for a man who prides himself on being body beautiful.

    I don't agree that losing means he was never worthy in the first place. He built a reputation, albeit with a significant lift from Olympic success and a big-time promotional outfit, on the back of good wins over what was available within the heavyweight division. It wasn't a good division, it wasn't particularly diverse or replete with talent. Klitschko was pretty much the be all and end all. Povetkin was a bookend. The only other young champion, Parker, he beat.

    I'm not sure what else you could have asked of Joshua. He beat the old guard, he beat the only representative of the new guard. Fury was out of action, eating himself into oblivion. Wilder has no intention of fighting anyone with a pulse. To this day, Wilder's career is best summed up by the body of Liakovich quivering on the canvas.