Tell me why you are now so sure Wilder would beat Joshua if Joshua rebuilds

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    He hasnt
     
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  2. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Thats some fair points you brought up and of course anything can happen when the gloves start flying. That being said though its hard to imagine DW not being able to land on AJs now confirmed glass jaw before AJ can knock him out. At some point he would have to exchange with DW and as we've seen time and time again AJ gets hit and sometimes badly hurt on exchanges and DW is the absolute last guy you want to get in exchanges with.
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Through having only being bested once in 34 fights and knocking out 26 of those opponents.

    While not as explosive as Joshua, he carries with him as just much power and is actually a much more awkward and intelligent fighter.

    Let's not forget that no man that has ever been in the ring with Wilder, has avoided tasting the canvas.
     
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  4. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But how is that a certainty? Wilder hasn’t been in with a puncher like Joshua?
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Wilder's speed...which is what I thought would be the difference prior to the Ruiz fight. Yes the power matters, the unconventional angles, all that...but at the end of the day you can't really simulate Wilder's speed/power combination, it's what makes him special.
     
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  6. mb1233

    mb1233 Active Member Full Member

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    AJ has a glass chin. Wilder lands and he’s going down,

    I now have doubts after previously thinking AJ would beat Wilder.
     
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know Fury and Joshua are completely different fighters but Fury seemed to be able to evade most of Wilders punches
     
  8. Okin129

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    Ortiz is certainly a hard puncher and taking several bombs to the head without going down = facing a puncher like Joshua.

    I‘m not even sure Joshua hits that much harder than someone like Ortiz.
     
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  9. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Even if he does land first, I don't think it's a given he stops Wilder...I mean anything is possible but I've seen Wilder eat some good shots from pretty decent punchers and hasn't been stopped.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Hello, Ortiz bangs just as hard.

    Ask Dave Allen. Ortiz hit him so hard he split his tongue in two and couldn't raise his manhood for several weeks after the encounter.
     
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  11. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People were saying povetkin and wladamir were too old to KO Joshua who apparently is weak chinned now. So let’s keep it consistent, Ortiz was too old to KO wilder and definitely doesn’t have the power Joshua does.
     
  12. Ironmanmt

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    I think he would, he is a very offensive fighter constantly looking for the KO. I think it just all depends on who lands first. The uppercut that Joshua hit Klitschko with would end the night for Wilder or any heavyweight for that matter.
     
  13. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When he was juiced up maybe, not when he had high blood pressure like in the wilder fight.
     
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  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because I’ve long thought Wilder was too athletic, dynamic, fast and explosive for the robot.

    And AJ only underscored every bit of that by his lack of ability to adjust, to recognize what was in front of him and how to cope with it, to listen to his corner when they tried to give instructions, etc.
     
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  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Too old maybe to sustain the pressure to defeat Wilder yes.

    But power wise, he hits just as hard as Joshua, and Wilder swallowed his punches.

    In an exchange Joshua would not survive against Wilder, because Wilder only needs one shot to take you out where's Joshua requires a sustained attack, to which he leaves himself opened to the counter.

    Wilder will detonate on him and there would be tragic consequences.
     
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  16. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing Changed, Deontay Wilder was never lacking in Confidence...the rest will be the same, Mental Toughness + Valor + Power of Deontay Wilder will jolt Anthony Joshua like he never been jolted before...
     
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