GGG Saying AJ Performance Based On Vada

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  1. Chase Boys

    Chase Boys New Member Full Member

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    I might not be an expert when it comes to this, but one question is, doesn’t Hearn employ VADA and UKAD for AJ’s UK Fights ? So technically nothing changed apart from fighting in a different country ?
     
  2. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    GGG is the third high profile boxer accusing AJ lol... First it was Chisora, "if this fight was in UK, this wouldn't have happened" then Whyte "TUE therapeutic use exemption wasn't granted" now GGG..... It's becoming evident that these pros are keeping us in the dark on AJ's PED use, and they don't wanna be a snitch, so they just kinda act dumb, but I'm beginning to do the math and see it.
     
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  3. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course he physically recovered from it, what I'm saying is I doubt this is a case of AJ being unable to competently defend himself because he couldn't benefit from a so called PED induced second wind, it was bewilderment and straight up not knowing how to deal. Don't get me wrong, Ruiz is a bad style match up for him and I expect the same **** to happen in the rematch.
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    No one suggested he couldn't defend himself due to the roids.

    The argument is that he wasn't his usual peak self that would maintain the explosiveness and rapid aggression through the rounds, even after emptying his tank.

    I would give AJ a chance in the rematch, because he will be back on the gear. Anywhere else where he is forced to fight on a level playing field and Ruiz retires him for good.
     
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  5. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Christ.. You're intentionally misleading the argument. There's more to it than defence. The gist of my point is being off PED's for mere months isn't turning anyone into goo.

    When the implication is that a major reason why he lost and got beat up is because he couldn't take roids then defence, including offence as defence, factors into it. Especially if you're mentioning a second wind. There's more to a second wind than explosiveness and keeping up an unnatural work rate, there's retaining enough stamina in the arms and legs to move, clinch, push, roll with punches, etc.

    One can't bring up roids as AJ's saviour and bringer of all his accomplishments and not factor in every single edge the various PED boosted athletic traits would entail.

    Plus, it's classic you wanna accuse AJ of all this because he's built but your hero Wilder gets the benefit of doubt because... he weighs 210lbs with tooth picks for legs? By that logic the tour de france is the shining example of clean sport. Keep that same energy all the time.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, VADA is a private agency. UK athletes are under the control of UKAD. If they wanted VADA they would specifically have to negotiate for VADA. They're not interchangeable. VADA is probably the most stringent agency out there because of their philosophy. For ex. they deviate from WADA Protocol in the handling of steroids by not allowing any synthetic steroids at all via use of their developed CiR test. I say developed because the man who invented this test is their chief science officer, among many other pioneering efforts.
     
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  7. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who needs Roids when you have...

    Bean Burritos & Snickers Bars!?!
     
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  8. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    smh had nothing 2 do with roids u guys are nuts..he got caught and beat.. its heavyweights it can happen 2 anyone...
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny thing, the NY commission didn't allow him to have a snickers bar before walking out lol. He said it really ticked him off.
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz may not be on PEDs but he definitely on some PEBs Performance Enhancing Burritos !
     
  11. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m not saying AJ is juicing but the BJS failed drug test situation exposed the huge flaws in how the UKAD operate.. Like I said if BJS vs Andrade was in the UK they would have allowed the fight to still go on which is pure ridiculousness.. I could be wrong but I don’t think AJ been doing VADA for his fights in the UK..
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    GGG should honestly shut up if he doesn't have any proof.
     
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  13. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Unless there's a such thing as chin peds, he wasn't missing any chemical advantage in the loss imo.
     
  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    ggg has been talkin too damn much lately. hes turning into an old woman.
     
  15. natedog

    natedog Active Member Full Member

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    He's been on Peds his whole boxing career. Should we really try to figure out why his balls seem to be shrinking his hair fell out and all the stuff. Plus he tries to blame people for boxers for using a list of substance or peds constantly,m which that means he's probably guilty of doing it