Mike Tyson vs the Big Four?

Tyson's loss to Douglas was a combination of all the crap that was going on with him and the styles. Ruiz needs to be close to engage and that would suit him down to the ground. Completely different to how Douglas won.

 

It was a 2 punch combination that Joshua dropped Ruiz with. Not a single shot. Furthermore, Ruiz was off balanced and wasn't even hurt. The dude literally got back up before the count of 3. Furthermore, Mike Tyson NEVER faced a puncher with a 95% KO ratio (as high as Joshua's). Mike Tyson is pure glass. The dude got dropped by a single shot by a feather-fisted Evander Holyfield with a measly embarrassing KO record of 40% (at heavyweight only and not cruiserweight).

Andy Ruiz Jr > Mike Tyson and this is seriously not even close! Let us know when Ruiz actually loses to someone as pathetic, and as embarrassingly bad as Buster Douglas because otherwise, it's unfathomable for Ruiz Jr to even be as DISGRACEFULLY bad as this insane fraud that is Mike Tyson.

 

Over-rated by a few more people than have him severely under-rated. Mike is not an utter hype-job, nor is he some invincible monster that KO’s everybody outside of his era in 1 or 2 rounds. The truth, I believe, is somewhere in the middle.

 

Pure excuses! And it doesn't matter if Tyson needs to come close, because Andy Ruiz Jr will eat Mike Tyson's punches like candy and then will proceed to take eat his soul too, as if it was made from Mexican Tacos.

 

Tyson was most susceptible to uppercuts and was stunned by Bruno, Bruno is not AJ.

Tyson was also stunned briefly by a Tucker uppercut.

Its not a given Tyson is going to walk through a huge power puncher like AJ, he was very lazy in the clinch and lost steam after mid rounds,usually bc he had the fight won but against another fast power puncher it may not go so good ? all the guy Tyson in his prime beat were not power punchers .

Tyson had a great chin but its not like he wasn't rattled by the punch he was most susceptible to and it happens to be AJ's best punch.

Prime Tyson would beat Lewis but AJ is at only fight 23 ,lets not forget Lewis lost in his 25th /26th fight and he was knocked out with one shot he didn't last long at all, AJ will fight and you really have to beat on him.

But the match itself is two counter punchers fighting and it poses more difficulties for Tyson style wise ,its why he had trouble with Holyfield, he could not dominate as much with the catch counter style which is AJ's.

 

Oh, right.

 

This is the truth! The idea that Tyson would blast through every heavyweight today in just 1 round is utterly preposterous. Since utter bums, with losing career records like James Tillis were going 12 round against Tyson.

There's Mike Tyson and there's the fictional 'IRON MIKE TYSON'. The REAL Mike Tyson simply wasn't as good as many people think he was. He got exposed and then after that, became irrelevant. Many heavyweights today like Andy Ruiz Jr and Alexander Povetkin are simply an upgrade from that hype-job.

 

You cannot defeat M. Tyson without power bc you cant win if you don't hurt him, AJ and Wilder are the only ones who possess that type of power and one can only box ,so THAT LEAVES Joshua as the most likely candidate to win more than the others .

Do the math you imbecile of who has the most tools of size, speed ,power and inside ability and once again see who's floored who and saved by bells out of them all bf continuing your stupidity on here . lol

 

they would have to land with that power though, before Tyson does, they both also leave themselves open to massive counter punches. Tyson would have a field day.

 

M. Tyson never fought a catch /counter style and one with power nor defeated one bc he was defeated twice by Holyfield who is.

AJ will not be overlooking him either and could very well knock him out by boxing smart and laying the boom on him late ,something im expecting in Ruiz rematch.

So no,no one can really tell me M . Tyson has a field day with a difficult style and one who likes the inside fighting even if it went 1 round it would be a danger fight for both.

People are being brainwashed and confusing length of fights over punchers chances .( the Ruiz fight could have ended in rnd 3 ,minus a few mistakes by both )

I don't see the fight going mid rounds and its a slight edge to Tyson but if AJ gets used to shorter guy ,it then could shift ?

The Ruiz rematch will tell us more on this one.

 

Did you hear what the clown said ladies and gentlemen?! He say's ''do the math'' before concluding that Joshua would be the most likely candidate to win

I suggest you delete your account right now, to save yourself from further embarrassment.

Joshua can't box unless he fights with a ref that holds back his opponent and allows Joshua paw out his pathetic jab without threat. Ruiz boxed his head off and made him beg his trainer to give him 'boxing for dummies' advice on what his opponent was going to do.

Neither does Joshua possess the power to keep Mike Tyson away from landing his own bombs, not mention Tyson had a far more durable chin than Joshua.

Tyson had ridiculous power, equal to Hearn and Wilder. Some argue greater.

Parker, Ruiz, and Takam took AJ's best shots and you are sitting there like a moron believe Tyson would not have been able to take Joshua's overrated power without landing one of his bombs on his chin?

 

I'd agree Holyfield was the best counter puncher he fought, I'm not sure i'd rate AJ as a great counter puncher himself though? he would need to be pretty great as well, to catch Tyson missing etc and capitalise on it, before Tyson himself follows up with his faster hands?

I don't think it matters if AJ would overlook him or not, Tyson simply has the style to exploit AJ. Maybe AJ wasn't at his best against Ruiz but his weakness were there so see, as they have been before. Also that's a few times he looked puffed out and defenceless, how would Tyson respond to a fighter in that state?

Maybe saying it would be a field day is extreme, but I know who I would favour if they opened up on the inside, AJ gets hurt then stopped imo. If he is more measured and controlled I could see him taking Tyson to the later rounds but I really think its unlikely that he wont get caught at some point.

I agree that the Ruiz rematch will prove a lot either way, its easy to get caught up and believe AJ is terrible now, which I don't believe, I just think its a bad style match up. But if AJ can come back and win it makes a better case for him that's for sure, I guess it could also prove he wasn't right against Ruiz.

But as it is now I don'y fancy his chances in that rematch personally, I think the mental scars will be hard to overcome as well as the stylistic issues, unless Ruiz does a Buster Douglas?

 

Tucker was a very good fighter.

Smith came to survive.

Douglas put in a great performance in Tokyo, but Mike wasn't at his best then. It doesn't matter how old he was, we know that he just turned up for a pay day and he didn't train properly.

It's not that the fighters above were better than the 4 today, it's more of a clash of styles that would favour Mike.

Wilder isn't very good technically and he's often off balance. And his size would actually have been a disadvantage for him, as Mike would have bobbed and weaved his way inside. He would never have been able to have timed him in order to have landed his huge right hand.

Joshua hasn't got a good chin, he has stamina issues, and he's very vulnerable to speed. Last Saturday, Ruiz gave everyone a preview of how a fight with Mike would have played out. And Mike was better than Ruiz, being faster, more powerful and harder to hit.

Ruiz is very aggressive and would never come to survive in the way that guys like Bonecrusher did. It would be an all out war. But Mike would be favoured for the reasons above, as well as having a bigger arsenal of shots at his disposal, which included body shots and uppercuts.

Fury would try and use his size to his advantage in a way that Wilder couldn't, but I think Mike would have been able to have gotten inside where he'd have hurt him to the body.

 

Nobody here can take you seriously.

 

Luis, you are a joker.

We went at this last year.

You told me that Douglas was a journeyman and that Mike was at his absolute best in Tokyo.

I said to you "Okay, if that was true, how was he able to beat all of the other fighters he faced, that included guys that had themselves beaten Douglas?

You couldn't reply.

I also told you that Mike had a very poor camp in Tokyo, where he had zero motivation and just turned up for a cheque.

You ignored it.

I then gave you footage of where Greg Page dropped Mike in sparring.

You ignored it.

You then said that I was making excuses regarding his camp.

I then again asked you how he was able to beat guys like Holmes so ruthlessly, to which you replied:

"Because he had poor preparations in camp"

Ha!

You are hilarious.