Mike Tyson vs the Big Four?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Come on man.

    We know you're hurting after last week, but get real.

    Ruiz has just shown us how a fight with Mike would have played out.
     
  2. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    Lol, Mike had an aura, all boxers who got inside the ring with him had fear. All 4 would have been vary of what he bought to the table. Even the gypsy king would have been careful in the early rounds.
     
  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was able to answer. You chose to ignore my answer, which ain't my problem. I clearly stated to you that it took time to figure out the blueprint to beat Mike Tyson and by the time Buster Douglas had shown that blueprint, Mike Tyson was as good as finished. Not because he was past his physical prime as many seem to claim, but because he never adapted. It's really that simple!

    Why did Mike Tyson beat a superior Larry Holmes and other superior boxers? Because Larry Holmes and those other superior boxers didn't have the blueprint at that point in time. Being a superior boxer is irrelevant to this discussion.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're too much.

    It took the boxing world 5 YEARS before a JOURNEYMAN finally laid out the blueprint of how to beat him?

    So it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Mike had zero motivation and had fallen out of love with training and wanting to be the best that he could be?

    Larry Holmes, a great HW with years of experience, and who was a superior boxer, wasn't able to beat him, because he didn't have the blueprint that was laid out by a journeyman?

    Really??

    Ha!

    You should do stand up.
     
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  5. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the village idiots gathered in one spot........

    Tyson would do a absolute demolition job on AJ, this guy fell apart fighting a guy picked to loose on short notice....AJ is packing pure glass, Ruiz is a sharp but not big puncher and AJ went down from grazing shots, no head movement, stiff as a bpard , zero stamina, if he had panic attacks before fighting the Michelin Man they would have to put him inot handcuffs to get him into the Ring with Tyson........in short, Tyson fighting AJ would make the Bruno affair look competitive......2 rounds max.

    Wilder would last a little longer, he would try to fight a Stiverne fight but Mike will come underneath punching up and down, MIke is very difficult to hit with a long right so that goes out the window, Wilder does not clinch, does not throw enough upper cuts and Tyson would not allow him any range........mid fight KO due to Wilder wanting to mix it up.

    Ruiz is tailormade, too game, too aggressive, to many defensive holes......if you think Ruiz has fast hands then you have never seen A tyson fight because Tyson is faster with way more sauce behind it......going toe to toe with Tyson is absolute suicide and toe to toe Ruiz would go.....Ruiz aint getting up after 3/4 rounds.

    Tyson Fury will come to survive a la Tucker and Bone hugger, he aint throwing enough punches while stinking the joint out, he has no pop and will be dead afraid to engage.........he will be happy to survive against his idol and take the loss...........Mike will also time his dipping plus body punching will put Fury in a shell........
     
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  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Er you what? Larry Holmes caught a new young Mike Tyson rising on the scene cold. If you knew anything about boxing, you'd know those are the boxers who are the most dangerous because very little is known about them.

    As more time passes, the more we get to learn about how great they truly are. Can they maintain a high level of consistency with their style, or adapt if their style is figured out. Unfortunately, the answer is a BIG FAT NO to both those questions when it comes to Mike Tyson. Why? Because Mike Tyson never was all that good! On the contrary, true great heavyweights like the Klitschkos and Lennox Lewis proved they could adjust and adapt when they were figured out.

    Look, I get it, it hurts one, being a Mike Tyson fan to learn Mike Tyson was never all that good as previously believed when seeing those amazing highlight reel knockouts, left, right and center when young and immature. I myself fell for the deception, being a huge Tyson myself. However, once objectively analyzed, those childhood memories have to be adjusted to the truth, which is that those opponents were either small or bummy or both ("Fly, bummy, fly!").

    If Larry Holmes was younger and fought Mike Tyson in 1990 himself, after getting more time to learn about Mike Tyson as Buster Douglas did, I'm pretty confident Holmes would've also done a number ofn Tyson.
     
  7. HerolGee

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    ruiz has won one world class fight. You sure learned enough from him in one fight to call him a granite chinned, superpowered monster.
     
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  8. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Aj Dosnt have the recovery to beat M. Tyson
     
  9. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ive ALWAYS said Tyson beats AJ. AJ had all types of problems with Ruiz speed wtf do you think would happen against prime Tyson? lol get out of here! AJ gets OBLITERATED by Mike.
     
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  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Tyson would KO them all in the first round except Fury. He'd KO Fury too but not in the first round. Actually, maybe Fury can survive. Lesser fighters did I think. The height difference is huge, combined with his style, he might survive.

    There's no big four either. Ruiz has a lot more to prove.
     
  11. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I think Ruiz right now would be the toughest guy for him because he has a great chin, similar hand speed and no fear. Too many holes in Joshua's and Wilder's game to beat Mike. Fury is harder to predict.
     
  12. Loudon

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    Luis Fernando,

    In 1988, Mike was boxing's most popular fighter.

    He became the youngest ever champ after he obliterated Trevor Berbick in 1986.

    By the time of the Holmes fight, he'd beaten Berbick, Thomas and Tucker.

    Everything was known about Mike in 1988.

    Mike was that good.

    He beat good fighters like they were nothing.

    He didn't just get lucky.

    He trashed Berbick.

    He beat Tucker.

    He beat Bruno twice in less rounds than what Lewis did.

    He smashed Spinks who'd proven he was a credible HW.

    He's the only guy to ever knock out Holmes in 75 fights, who went on to beat Mercer and who pushed a prime Evander years later in the 90's.

    Mike was a great HW. But he didn't have any consistency because his life became a circus. He'd fallen out of love with the game even before the Douglas fight, where he was sloppy against Bruno. He then lost 3 years of his career to prison. Afterwards, he was never the same. There was a noticeable difference. Now, could Evander and Lennox have beaten the versions of Mike who'd crushed Spinks and Holmes? Yes, they could have. But the fact is, they fought inferior versions of Mike. At just 25 years of age, his best years were behind him. If you follow football/soccer, George Best and Paul Gascoigne were the same. They shined bright, but only for a very short period. It happens. It's not physical, it's psychological.

    You've been a member now for 2 years.

    In that time, I've never seen you objectively analyse anything.

    Small and/or bummy?

    Really?

    Berbick, Thomas, Spinks, Bruno, Tucker, Holmes and Ruddock weren't bums.

    All of them had height, reach and weight advantages over Mike.

    Yeah?

    Well I'm pretty confident that if you keep up this sort of nonsense, the whole forum will see you for what you are.
     
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  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only fighter here with a chance is Wilder because of his power, the rest are chicken feed
     
  14. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder, AJ and Ruiz are all cruel looking KO wins for Mike Tyson.

    The Fury fight would come to the same ending but not in the same way. Fury would take some wearing down, but ultimately he would simply not be able to get in and out enough times, successfully against somebody that aggressive, especially when he has little by way of power, to shake Tyson up when he does come in. He would land a few good counters, hooks and uppercuts on Tyson on the way out, maybe pick up a round here and there, but would eventually get mowed down. Too much heat
     
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  15. FinitoxDinamita

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    Mike Tyson walks over everybody except for Fury. Fury beats him.

    Dont give me no bullsht about the likes of Ortiz or Joshua competing with Mike lol.

    Mike destroys all these modern bums.
    Fury is a different story though.