Fury vs Hammer rewatch

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  1. Okin129

    Okin129 ... Full Member

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    Fury also dominated prime Chisora the same way.

    Chisora was a bit better than Hammer imo.
     
  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what does that make Povetkin then? For being unable to KO two guys that Fury was able to KO? The same Fury who couldn't even KO a 'wank', according to you? Does that make Povetkin someone who is even lesser than a wank?
     
  3. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hammer's a decent gatekeeper and did come to fight against Fury but yeah, Fury made easy work of him and forced him to quit, like he did with Chisora which takes some doing. I expect a similar type performance against Schwarz this weekend.

    @anjawnaymiz no, not really. Hammer caught Ortiz off balance once or twice but other than that it was a typical straightforward victory for Ortiz similar to the Travis Kauffman fight.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesn’t a gatekeeper have to shut the gate every once in a while?
     
  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And you improve your English before responding to me!

    Literally nothing you typed, changes what I stated in regards to:

    Tyson Fury KO'ed Steve Cunningham. Steve Cunningham stopped and beat Marco Huck conclusively. Whilst Povetkin couldn't stop Huck and needed a close / questionable decision. Thus, Fury > Cunningham > Povetkin > Huck (that's if I agree for argument's sake that Huck wasn't robbed against Povetkin).

    You claim Huck was green / inexperienced against Cunningham? You do realize that Huck literally never had a single fight at heavyweight, before fighting Povetkin for his first fight at heavyweight? Whilst Povetkin was fighting at heavyweight for his entire career? So if anything, Huck was totally inexperienced at heavyweight and still fought Povetkin to a close draw. Doesn't matter if Povetkin wasn't in his best condition. Huck wasn't in his best condition either, since he's not even a natural heavyweight but a cruiser weight so Huck was also out of shape.

    And no, Povetkin did not win clearly against Huck!
     
  6. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So Fury at least stopped Steve Cunningham whilst Povetkin won by majority decision against Marco Huck.

    So beating Steve Cunningham by stoppage > beating Marco Huck by majority decision.

    Therefore, Fury > Povetkin.

    The rest are all gibberish excuses coming from you!
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Steve Cunningham (and all other sub-heavyweights) know the challenges ahead of them that they will have to face against super heavyweights like Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury didn't force Cunningham to fight him. Cunningham chose to fight Fury.

    Weight bullying by using size advantage as Fury did against Steve Cunningham (to KO him), is part of heavyweight boxing. That's what makes the heavyweight division unique and different from other divisions. A boxer can outweigh their opponents by an unlimited amount. Not just Fury, but the Klitschkos, Lennox Lewis, Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmesm Anthony Joshua and many other super heavyweights have all used their size advantage by weight bullying their opponents in similar fashion, be it by pushing, or by grabbing them. Again, this has always been part of heavyweight boxing.

    If Cunningham, Povetkin and Huck can't handle these super heavyweights who rely on their weight advantage, then they need NOT fight at heavyweight and are free to go down to cruiser weight or light heavyweight.

    Fury KO'ed Cunningham. Doesn't matter what you think about the KO. Fury KO'ed Cunningham using his weight advantage as a super heavyweight whilst weight-bullying Cunningham. Meanwhile, Povetkin couldn't KO Huck. Therefore, Fury > Povetkin. It doesn't matter if Povetkin didn't have the size advantage over Huck as Fury did over Cunningham and therefore couldn't weight bully Huck in similar fashion. His lack of size is his own problem and nobody forced Povetkin to fight at heavyweight, if his lack of size is such a problem against a career cruiser weight. But if he is going to be fighting as a heavyweight, then he is going to be judged as one and compared to one. And when comparing Fury and Povetkin as heavyweights, Fury > Povetkin.

    Fury's size > Povetkin's size

    Fury's weight > Povetkin's weight

    Fury's speed > Povetkin's speed

    Fury's power > Povetkin's power

    Fury's reach > Povetkin's reach

    So it's Fury > Povetkin in every department at heavyweight.

    Povetkin is worse than a dog poo in front of Fury. Povetkin is a disgrace and a shame to Russian people (are you Russian by the way?) by getting humiliated by a British fighter (Anthony Joshua) in shameful / disgraceful fashion in front of thousands of his own Russian countrymen and women by getting dropped twice, without being able to KO Joshua or at least go the distance without getting dropped like the disgraceful poo that he is.

    Povetkin made a bad example out of Russian people through getting knocked out by Joshua and therefore showing to the whole world how weak Russians (like himself and in general) are.
     
  8. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My point was simply that Fury > Povetkin at heavyweight. Can you disprove this? Since you haven't done so yet!

    And the rest of your waffle is totally irrelevant! Fury knocked Jennings out using his size advantage. Jennings wasn't forced to fight Fury. Jennings decided to fight Fury and got KTFO. If he can't handle Fury's size, he shouldn't have taken the fight.
     
  9. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would have to watch it again to tell you such a long time ago but i always score matches. I like Povetkin and was hoping he would win so there was no bias in there
     
  10. madballster

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    This is what Fury vs. Ruiz would look like. And this is what AJ should have done vs. Ruiz.
     
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  11. Rock0052

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    I like Ruiz, but a shorter, more immobile dude giving up 10 inches of reach to Tyson is going to have a nightmare of a fight.
     
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  12. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you archive your fight score cards or something