Larry Holmes STILL gets no r-e-s-p-e-c-t...

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  1. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Makes me laugh when people say vlad was far superior. Holmes Bit down on his gum shield and defended his title.What more could he do ? Great fighter.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is a quantity over quality reign.

    Few can match it for longevity or depth, but many did better quality work over a shorter period.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    That should really be a no brainier!
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    There either 2 or 3 behind Ali. Rt. now I got Holmes at 2.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis surpasses him on every possible stat, both quantitative and qualitative.

    It would be easier to make a case for ranking him over Ali in some ways.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Could be..I'm more of a H2H guy though
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Then I cannot say that you are necessarily wrong.
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    great post here
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya it is a cool pic.. Looks like Robert gots the size to go a few rounds with Larry
     
  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Who and who do you think defeats him ..
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Holmes is finally getting respect, This has changed over the years. While he will never be loved by most, he is the greatest living heavyweight champion, and should be in everyone's top ten. I have in him as high as #2 and as low as #6.

    RESPECT.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    When did people say he had no heart if you don't mind me asking?
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Larry Holmes went undefeated for the first 12 years of his career, for 48 fights.
    He had a couple of disputable decisions but no one beat him, He turned pro at age 23 and stayed unbeaten until he was 35.
    In that time, he reigned as the #1 heavyweight on the planet for somwhere between 5 and 7 years (depending on point of view).

    I don't think any heavyweight had a cleaner record than that.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    The same is true of every heavyweight with a long reign or multiple defences.
    Joe Louis gets the same criticism, and even Muhammad Ali's actual reigns have tons of padding.
     
  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All respect to taste.

    I don't think anyone here needs to defend Larry, his objective accomplishments more than speak for themselves. He was practically unbeatable '77 to (roughly) '84.