Canelo based on talent level and actual achievements is clear p4p#1. When Loma/Bud have a win anywhere near as good as Jacobs or Golovkin then we can include them in the conversation.
Get over what? I'm not a Lara fan, I just score the fight for him. Plus with the GGG fight, most boxing legends and coaches had him winning. You can always find people who go against the majority. I know people who thought Holyfield beat Lewis. The thing is a P4P #1 fighter doesn't go life and death with Trout. Is Canelo top 10? Yes. Top 5, maybe. But he's not #1.
I had Canelo losing all three of those fights. But he got the decisions. I just don't see he as number 1.
Apparently you didn't see the first GGG fight. Canelo displayed top level footwork in his outboxing of GGG.
Yeah Alvarez displayed elite level footwork in that fight... One can only wonder why he felt the need to get roided out of his eyeballs before the rematch.
Between 2013 and this year, it can be argued that Canelo should have 5 losses. He is a high level boxer, his p4p run is very subjective and he is most assuredly not number 1.
Let’s s be honest, a win over an old Rigo dragged up two divisions doesn’t mean anything. Going off their respective performances I’m not sure how you can rank Loma above. Canelo gave up as much size against Jacobs as Loma did against Linares, and performed better despite Jacobs being a superior opponent.
No respectable person would have Canelo at #1. Not even Kitchen Utensils' own Ring magazine have their cash cow at #1. Guess who is number 1? Lomachenko.
losing twice to GGG and being number 1 ???? doesn,t make any sense to me Real number 1 is Loma ( GGG and Usyk just behind )
That's great for you that you scored it for Lara. I'm just pointing out that other professional fighters close to Lara had Canelo beating him. Also here is just some of many more fighters, legends and coaches who had Canelo beating GGG. Mike Tyson George Foreman Roberto Duran Julio Cesar Chavez Miguel Cotto Robert Garcia Jorge Arce Austin Trout Andre Ward Willie Monroe Amir Khan Marco Antonio Barrera Mikey Garcia Andy Lee Martin Murray Errol Spence Sergio Mora Bernard Hopkins Jorge Linares Peter Quillin Tony Bellew David Haye Floyd Mayweather SR Erik Morales David Lemieux Peter Smith Liam Smith Jermell Charlo Jermall Charlo Claressa Shields Caleb Plant Jason Quigley Badou Jack Jaime Munguia Jeff Mayweather Fernando Vargas Josh Kelly Jorge Travieso Arce Humberto Chiquita González Shakur Stevenson Devin Haney John Molina Curtis Stevens Abner Mares
So guys like Golovkin (second fight), Jacobs, Cotto, Lara, Trout, ect, couldn't convincingly beat a guy with mediocre footwork? No skill is the most important if you can be as successful as Canelo has been, against the level of opposition hes fought, while being mediocre at it. Either he's better at it than you think, or its not as important as you think. ... Sidenote. Individual traits and singular skills dont matter as much as people think. The effectiveness of the fighter with their combined traits and skillsets is, really, all that matters, if its proven against the appropriate (world and elite) level of opposition.
