Expert opinions on Frazier vs Tyson

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  1. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

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    Greb lost to Tiger Flowers because he couldn't see. The rest hadn't come across such a big puncher as George was.
     
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  2. Rainer

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    No, he lost because he was coming to the end of the line and many thought he won those fights.
    Langford fought lots of punchers
    Clark
    Godfrey
    Wills
    McVey
    Hague
    Smith
    Fulton
    Valentine fought
    Charles
    Thompson
    Krieger
    Payne
    Fitzpatrick
    All good bangers.
     
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  3. Grapefruit

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    Tyson by early knock out for me, Frazier was susceptible to uppercuts from hard punchers, and Tyson had a better uppercut than any other heavyweight, Frazier was also a slow starter and tyson was a very fast starter. Tyson could really take a good punch in his early days and could probably tank atleast a few Frazier hooks.
     
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  4. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

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    Greb was almost completely blind when he fought Tigers. Both fights were disputed but if Greb could have seen he would have won those fights. He was only 32 years old. But he did have 118 fights according to Box Rec.
     
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    We have to look at Joe s tendency to be hurt in the early round s , Oscar dropped him , Foreman obvious smashed him down and Ali hurt him in their second fight early . Tyson , very fast start , powerful to go with it . Joe the higher placed in my eyes but head to head against Tyson ..I'm not sure it's looking good .
     
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  6. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Mike was an upgraded fighting machine
     
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  7. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    No,Greb had good vision out of his left eye.
     
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  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Then why did he fold against Holy Buster and Lewis? He didnt beat one single ATG and dont say Holmes. Holmes was done by 84..his successful comeback yrs later deserves a whole different thread.
    Frazier beat greats Tyson didnt.
     
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  9. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson for me. I don't like this matchup for Joe at all.
     
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  10. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Mike was just more skilled and better than Joe
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I highly disagree...but that's why were all here
     
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  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He absolutely did not have the better chin. Everything else, I agree.
     
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    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    If someone called me the most powerful heavyweight they'd ever seen, I'd be pretty content about my punching power...
     
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  14. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Frazier beat one great once, and lost the other two against him.
    The only other great he met beat him 2 out of 2,leaving him with a record against them of 1-4.
    Want to speculate how Frazier would do at the age of 36 against Lewis?
     
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    I think he did, he met more punchers and had better success against them.
     
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