How Would Douglas Have Done Against Wilder?

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    So did Ray Mercer. Jessie got a few names on his resume. Just sayin
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    That's why I've got Buster beating him . Obviously it's got to be Douglas at his very best ie Tyson fight , the version that's come to win and isn't bothered about a reputation.
    That James Douglas would whip Wilder ,he'd beat him and have him looking beat before the tenth round .I can actually see Wilder being stopped around the 10 th , Buster possibly more dominant than Fury.
     
  3. BCS8

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    That version of Douglas was sharp, determined and in form. His jab alone would have Wilder in deep waters.

    I say Douglas shreds him.
     
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  4. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

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    Wilder would knock Douglas out.
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    dougie might stop wilder
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The question should be is can Wilder actually fight? At least on the level of a well trained professional fighter? Douglas was a well trained professional fighter whose biggest issue was his lackadaisical attitude to training. But if he is motivated, Wilder would pose little threat to Douglas .
     
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  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet he put arguably the best boxer in the division flat on his back......

    If Wilder clips Douglas it's lights out.
     
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best boxer in division who had very long break from the sport and was rusty as hell. Yet he completely dominated the fight outside of lucky knockdown and even after the KD, Fury won the end of the fight. This fight, if anything, proves that Wilder is a sloppy finisher and very unrefined puncher.
     
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  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who also happens to **** all over Douglas defensively, better footwork and head movement.

    There's no such thing as a lucky knockdown you pudding, or two in Wilder's case.

    I'll tell you who is lucky, Fury is lucky that right hand didn't land perfectly or he would still be seeing stars.
     
  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but any perfectly landed right hand can KO opponent in HW division. Wilder failed to stop him with his shot and he failed to stop him after the punch. Many fighters would have done better in his place with hurt Fury.

    Wilder's workrate isn't great either, what makes him more dangerous than Tokyo Tyson?
     
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  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The facts are he is adept at doing such!

    I have a feeling Fury wasn't as hurt as everyone makes out, he got up on very strong legs. So it's one of two, Fury wasn't as hurt as once thought or he made a miraculous recovery.
     
  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, he wasn't as hurt as many believe. The point is that Wilder hasn't proved anything to suggest he's all-time great puncher. Maybe in terms of power, but that's far from the only thing that makes puncher dangerous.
     
  13. Wass1985

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    He's proved it as good as any thus far, name me better?

    The facts are though you don't have to be an ATG puncher to knock Douglas out.
     
  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Outside of Fury (who he didn't stop) and Ortiz, Wilder didn't face anyone significant. Better punchers than Wilder?

    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Sam Langford
    Jack Dempsey
    Joe Louis
    Rocky Marciano
    Sonny Liston
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Mike Tyson
    Lennox Lewis
    Wladimir Klitschko

    Are much better than him. Then we have:

    James Jeffries
    Harry Wills
    Max Baer
    Max Schmeling
    Joe Walcott
    Floyd Patterson
    Archie Moore
    Evander Holyfield
    Vitali Klitschko

    and probably many others I don't have memory to name who are at least comparable and probably more proven.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    What exactly do you mean by “better puncher”? (Just curious)