Your Top Ten All Time MIddleweight Big Punchers?

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    So you don't think he hits hard enough at 160 to make the list of top punchers?
     
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    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi John, no I don't imply that nor mean that.

    I just don't think fighters should be ranked in more than one weight, generally speaking.
    I know some fighters campaigned long enough in at a lighter weight where you wouldn't be wrong for placing them there, but their NOT really that weight in stature.

    their were sooooooo many Catchweight fighters, because they had to be to get fights, money and recognition, but as I said that doesn't automatically equate them as a lower or higher weight fighter.

    Len Harvey, fought in every division, but Len Harvey is NOT a Fly, BW, LW, WW, MW (arguably gets rated as such) nor a HW...

    but Stature wise Len Harvey is Ever Inch and Pound a Light - Heavyweight, his TOP fights below that are point scorers and serve his overall career as great markers, his TOP fights North of that, at HW Propels his Overall Career Marks plus, plus.

    this how I think ALL fighters should be Rated, at their ONE Main, longest and Optimum Weight - as young fighters, fighters Pass Through Lower Divisions, as Older Veteran's, fighters Finish Off in Higher Divisions, but it is neither Accurate and in Many Cases Fair to Rate them in these Divisions.
     
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    Hi back. I'm missing the point a little as this thread is only about punching power, not resume etc. If it was resume it would be a different matter i think. Fitz for many definitely belongs high in a list of big hitting middleweights. Now if you asked those same posters where he ranked resume wise it would be a vastly different story.
     
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  4. Rainer

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    This is a top ten list.
     
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    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    If Harvey was anything he was a middleweight , he had 50 fights in that division,and only 17 at lhvy and above!
     
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    I asked for a top ten you've listed 23, half of whom would not be on anyone else's list. It seems a rather wayward approach as Miranda has no stoppage wins of any note at middleweight neither does Abraham, and Pavlik had just 2.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Nonsense. How many Light Heavyweights do you think could make 158Ibs on the day of the fight?
     
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  8. Mendoza

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    Why not list Golovkin, he had lots of stoppages at middle weight, and the video shows the force of his blows?
     
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    NONE TODAY, Loads Yesterday...

    why? because yesterday they were 170lb Catchweight Fighters, fluctuating Up or Down depending what the fight & terms were.

    Today they are 6'1" 190lb men with 5 months to make weight and fight DOWN!
     
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    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tony Mundine deserves a mention as the iron chinned Carlos Monzon
    paid tribute to Mundine power saying '' he fought an Aust kid who hit
    him and had him out , but he just didn't follow up. '' Monzon stopped
    Mundine in 7 rds in a title defense.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    You are incorrect. He won the middleweight championship of the world before he achieved major success in the US at higher weights. He was and deserves full consideration as a middleweight champion as much as Dick Tiger or Roy Jones or James Toney.
     
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    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If its any fighter that once boxed at middleweight I'd have Satterfield number one I feels he's p4p hardest hitter ever. Langford would also be top 5. However if its ppl who boxed a long period and the weight and fought at the highest level their then:

    1. Fitzsimmons
    2. Jackson
    3. Ketchel
    4. McCellan
    5. Benn

    Middleweights had a lot of punchers Valdez, Lausse, GGG, Hagler, Robinson, Muagbi & Hearns are other candidates.
     
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  13. Rainer

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    I'm sorry,.we are obviously reading from ,not only different pages but different books!
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone mention Eugene "Cyclone" Hart yet?
     
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    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then, but now he would be a super middle.