Valuev's resume vs Wilder's resume

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Valuev's resume vs Wilder's resume

  1. Valuev

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  2. Wilder

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol, Ortiz has far better fundamentals.
     
  2. BCS8

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    Wilder would have extreme problems with a decent version of Valuev. Valuev actually had a decent jab and was near-impossible to hurt, so right there Wilder's party trick is taken out of the equation. Personally I would pick Valuev to lump him up something bad. Now, Valuev didn't have a huge punch, and if Wilder can take it, he might work enough to win on points. I'd say IMO its 60-40 to Valuev.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Haye has speed, power, explosiveness and a style advantage
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Style advantage?
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    An orthodox boxer puncher with the advantage power and speed beats a southpaw boxer with neither
     
  6. Oakland Billy Smith

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    You don't wish to give credit to Wilder for the Fury fight?

    He was supposedly losing every second of the fight to the supposed #1 fighter of this era and he still managed to pull the fight even on scorecards with just two clean punches....
     
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  7. Okin129

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    Geh weg :risas3:
     
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    Was soll denn Demlack sein ? Bestimmt nichts höfliches mein Freund, musste aufpassen :eaea:

    However as far as i know Washington was top 15 at Boxrec when Wilder fought him and i didn‘t mention Molina, my post was purely based on ring magazine and boxrec rankings of their opponents and Wilder has better achievements than Valuev.
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    So you're saying Wilder has just two wins over top ten ring magazine opponents, one who was old ( and almost beat him ), and the other quickly moved out of the ratings once beaten and has not retuned since. Thank You, I asked for this a while back.

    IMO Valuev beat better opposition. Not by a big margin though.
     
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  10. kirk

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    Nice post.

    Out of curiosity how did you find their rankings at the time of the fights?
     
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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Washington who was out boxing Wilder was rated 35th at box rec!

    http://boxrec.com/en/event/744199/2128928
     
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    That shows his current rating which is at 35, he was undefeated when Wilder beat him.
     
  13. Okin129

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    Of course you think that but you‘re not an objective poster, i know the posters on here that i can take serious and you‘re not one of them.

    I will take you serious when i eventually see ONE objective post from you which isn‘t agenda driven especially when it comes to your beloved Klitschko bros and Wilder.
     
  14. Okin129

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    You can search it up at Boxrec, they have archives for the yearly Boxrec and Ring magazine ratings.
     
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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    I am using your OWN WORDS. You agree with me. Wilder has only beaten one top ten ring magazine ranked contender under the age of 38. That's it, and upon further review, that man was very overrated! Objective facts.

    The Klitschko's have been retired for years, and by the way, Washington was rated 35th box rec when he fought Wilder. Do you know how to check on it or not? My guess is you don't.

    Dominic Breazeale was rated no higher than 12th using their records on where he was the fight before Wilder

    So get with the facts. If you think Wilder should have his fist bronzed now and beat Ali and Lewis on the same night, that is your opinion.

    Let's just keep the rankings of the people he beat real, okay?

    And since you bright Wlad's name into it, he easily KO'd Wilder in sparring.
     
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