Whyte vs Rivas

JESUS are you deliberately thick???

He is fighting the same top 15 over and over... and ignoring the guy at the top of the top 15

 

So what was Whyte ducking pulev and rematching chisora?

Are you deliberately being a hypocrite or are you sleeping with Whyte?

 

This is now a huge fight for matchroom PPV.

 

To be fair to Whyte, no-one seemed to fancy fighting Pulev in Sofia. Hughie only took it because they had no money and few if any other options. All the fighters with a choice swerved that one, whether that was fear of Pulev or the officiating / conditions, never seemed clear?

 

Yeah 100% agree lot of fighters with options swerved that fight I’m not putting it all on Whyte plus I don’t actually mind Whyte my whole point was wilder if he has the rematch with fury then his last 4 opponents can’t be complained about especially compared to other heavyweight’s.

Is the Ortiz completely necessary nah not really but Ortiz is a top 15 heavyweight and the first fight was fun plus it’s easy fight to make same as breazeale was easy fight to make its the political landscape of boxing.

 

I recall Miller avoiding it but not sure who else did? I wonder if Miller knew he was being lined up for AJ though.

No one wants that Bulgarian smoke though.

 

I have critcised Wilder heavily in the past because I think he's the poster boy for a manufactured record. Even in those times when he appears to have stepped up there's always a question mark. Ortiz's physical condition in their first fight, Fury appearing a shadow of his former self, Breazeale having been selected years in advance etc. You can complain about those last 4 in other words if you dig down sufficienly.

I just can't be arsed doing it any more though because everyone has picked their sides and there's precious few people reading the arguments and changing their position. It's a very polarised and frankly boring discussion.

Ultimately I agree with your second para, I enjoyed the first one, I think Ortiz is done, but I'll still be interested in the second and maybe there's 3 good rounds before Ortiz finally gets to collect his pension. Eventually Wilder will step in the ring with someone who is in their prime and a legitimate top two guy AT THE SAME TIME. Until that happens we just enjoy what we're given.

 

Miller, Whyte and I think one other were mentioned before Hughie. CBA looking though!

 

Yeah Money is a big part of the decission making, and am I the only one in the industry that thinks that? Nope... is that gonna change any time soon....? Nope

Pulev offered a **** split for Whyte to fly all the way over there. He instead invited Pulev to come all the way down to UK for a lot more money, you know the same Pulev that came down for AJ. But apparently not for Jamaicans.

Instead... Whyte made 5 Million by choosing Chisora... only about 60 TIMES what he would have made against Pulev.


60 ****ING TIMES THE PAY DAY.. Read that back to yourself. Mandatories are OVERRATED... who gives a ****... Whyte was WBO mando and got it taken off as soon as Usyk moved up... worthless. Not how it should work, but WBO for some reason fought for Usyk in court, going out of their way. I wonder why... money?

When has Wilder made anywhere near 12 million dollars to fight someone??? If Whyte is garbage... if whyte is just hype and a peasant.... why not fight him? Why Ortiz again?? You tell me.

EXPLAIN to me why Ortiz rematch? Where is the logic... why if you are a true champion you can't face the number 1 contender.. who's been waiting for 600 days. Why give Fury another shot???? Fury was unlisted on WBC prior to the first bout.

You are clearly team Wilder protection squad. Whats your salary?

 

What political landscape? The politics is shaped by Haymon, Finkel and Wilder. A jamacian who happens to have spent 600 days at #1 contender is OFFERING 12 million dollars... what politics??? It's a take it or leave it... there are no caveats.

They don't want that smoke.

 

How am a wilder protector? Wilder fought straight trash for 80% of his career but i call it like I see it the run he is on now is very good level of opponent and I gave Whyte credit and said I believe very strongly he would beat breazeale and I believe he beats current Ortiz but there still good level of opposition especially compared to what he used to offer us.

But you can’t see the wood from the trees and I would much rather see the fury rematch than him fight Whyte just like 95% of everybody else and in an ideal world he would of fought Whyte before fury instead of Ortiz but we don’t live in an ideal world.

 

It's got nothing to do with the "ideal world" anology. In an ideal world, everything goes smoothly without hiccups.... in the current reality... there is a clear injustice in the unfair treatment of Whyte that you cannot bring yourself to condone.

Why is that people scream when a rematch between AJ vs Whyte gets called.. saying "we've seen it before"... yet it was just as exciting as the Ortiz vs Wilder fight EXCEPT that it was four ****ing years ago. Whreas Ortiz vs Wilder was ****ing last year. And when Ortiz fought Wilder he had already learnt everything he was going to learn being 60 years old... when Whyte fought AJ he was a complete inexperienced novice compared to the 9 fights he has racked up since then.

So Ortiz and Fury get TWO CHANCES EACH, and Whyte does even get ONE CHANCE? One straight shot? **** the eliminators... Fury rejected it, and Ortiz was offered a maincard in UK and rejected it.

Whyte is offering 12 MILLION to fight. Ortiz and Fury did not offer anywhere near.

So because you refuse to acknowledge the above three paragraphs, and condemn the unfair treatment, you are rightly labelled WBC protection squad because you are part of the problem/

We all like seeing rematches... but at the rightly stated times... give EVERY GUY a fair shot... and NONE fairer is due then Whyte.

 

Have to say, I don't recall Matchroom making an offer to Pulev to come to the UK or for Ortiz as you alluded to earlier. Perhaps I just missed those press items.

 

I've missed Inferno.