Crawford and Spence need to fight each other first BEFORE they face Pacquiao/Thurman winner

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What excuses have Crawford made?
     
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  2. Paranoid Android

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    Pac fans dislike slander. You should know what slander is, right? You should steer your hate towards Floyd. He's a despicable human being. Or does he get a pass from you?
     
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  3. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Pac fans dislike slander."? lol You need your own cartoon show. What do you call your comments about Marquez? You seem to be a semi-intelligent fellow but you are evidently not very self-aware. As for Mayweather, you have never seen me defending his character. I only point out that Mayweather beat Pac 10-2 in one of the most disappointing fights of this millennium.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Of course they do. #3 and #4 have to duke it out with each other for the right to face #1.

    If Manny emerges victorious he'll hold wins at welterweight over

    Keith ''One Time'' Thurman
    Oscar
    Cotto
    JMM
    Mosley
    Margarito
    Timachenko x 3
    Clottey
    Lucas
    Broner
    Jessie Vargas

    If One Time emerges victorious he'll hold wins over

    Manny
    Danny Garcia
    Porter
    Collazo
    Guerrero
    Zaveck
    Chaves
    Quintana
    Julio Diaz
    Josesito
    Soto Karass

    No need to include Bundu even though he whooped a much better version of him than Spence did

    Spence has wins over

    Brook - damaged goods Brook, mind
    Peterson - career 140 pounder featherfist
    Algieri - career 140 pounder Paulie level featherfist
    Mikey Garcia - blown up 135 pounder who'd come up from 126 and had about as much right being up at 147 as Spence does of being down at 135

    And Algieri was 1-2 in his last 3 fights, Peterson should've been 1-2 in his last 3, and Brook was coming off stoppage loss, a beating, a serious eye injury and gruesome surgery to repair it, back down from 160 after bulking up to fight up there (and everyone knows making 147 was pure torture for Brook prior to bulking up), and a savage HL billy goat butt from hell by Spence in round 8 which caused Brook's eye to swell up like an onion and it obviously had a big impact on both Brook and the fight itself.


    Crawford has wins over

    Horn - whose only claim to fame was winning foul filled gift decision mugging against Manny who only 7 of the 67 members of press row, fight scribes, fellow fighters who were polled scored for Jeffrey Horn (55 for Pac, 7 for Horn, 5 draw)
    Benavidez - peg-leg cripple who clearly has difficulty moving in and out of range since having been shot in the leg and who freely admits it hinders him and he has to try and block out the pain

    And don't forget Manny is a blown up 140 pounder who has come up from 106 and his resume below 147 includes such notable scalps as the legendary MAB x 2, Morales x 3, JMM, Hatton, and Sasakul to name but a few and how many times has he fought outside his country and fought opponents in their backyards?
     
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  5. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Gawd, Manny is such a god.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He'll be an even bigger one after he trounces One time and then the winner of Crawford vs Spence.
     
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  7. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    I have Pacquiao-Spence as a 60/40 fight in favor of Spence. And I honestly got Crawford KOing Pacquiao.
     
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  8. Serge

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    Hater
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, due to Arum, it's gonna likely end up the winner of Thurman/Pac fights the winner of Spence/Porter, then eventually that winner fights Crawford.
     
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  10. Flo_Raiden

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    I think it's pretty bad that Pac, Thurman, Spence, and Porter have to be the ones to fight each other while Crawford sits in the back and chill as if he's so special to not have to face tough competition despite having an inferior resume. I don't think that's fair in all honesty.
     
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  11. cslb

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    Suppose none of them want to fight Crawford. Is it still Crawford's fault that he has to wait?
     
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  12. Flo_Raiden

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    Not really, but they should make it mandatory for one of them to face Crawford. I know that Crawford is more than willing to face the best comp available but is mostly being held back by Arum and other promoters. I think it's Spence who is holding up the fight with Crawford.
    Again, do you think it makes sense for Spence and Crawford to fight first and then fight Pac or Thurman?
     
    Flo_Raiden, Jun 27, 2019
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  13. cslb

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    I don't think Pac should still be fighting at all and Thurman is only fighting Pac for the payday. I think Thurman has lost his heart for boxing and won't fight Spence or Crawford under any circumstance. I would love to see Spence fight Crawford but Spence seems hesitant to get in the ring with Crawford and this is one fight I can't blame Arum for it not happening.
     
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  14. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    If he does that, then the conversation will have to begin that he could have the greatest boxing career of all time.
     
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  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one said it was fair and I don't think Crawford would be to blame as I'm certain he'd take every fight, but this is how Arum operates. All of those other fights are gonna be easier to make (everyone is with PBC) so it stands to reason that the fights that are less of a negotiation and hassle for Haymon to make will be made.
     
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