Fighters who are both ATG 1 and H2H at there weight?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    What fighters are both number 1 at there weight and H2H at there weight? The ones I've come up with are

    Ezzard Charles, at 175
    Sugar Ray Robinson, at 147


    HMs
    Muhammad Ali, my number 1 top 5 H2H
    Benny Leonard, my number 1, top 3 H2H
    Lennox Lewis, my number 3 but 1 H2H

    Any more? This is an incredibly rare thing I've found out
     
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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mike McCallum is #1 @ 154
     
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  3. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Duran Lightweight
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd like to know all Fitzsimmons weights in his best performances, but he would be strong candidate here.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    The more I think I have Pryor as 1 for both at 140
    And Usyk for both at CW
     
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  6. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Very interesting idea!
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

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    Can't forget about Wilfredo Gomez @ 118. #1 Super Bantamweight fighter and best H2H at that weight.
     
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  8. janitor

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    Most fighters who are the former, have some sort of argument for being the latter!
     
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  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There would be many that would argue that Evander Holyfield would be ranked no.1 in both categories at cruiserweight.
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk only compared to other cruisers, or to fighters with similar weight?
     
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  11. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield at CW.
     
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  12. Blaxx

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    I think @janitor nailed it.
    The number one usually has a good argument for H2H.
    Lightweight - Benny Leonard
    Welter - Ray Robinson
    Middle - Greb (Ray, Monzon & Hagler are more than decent shouts though)
    Light heavy - Charles
    Heavy - Ali

    I can only think of Featherweight where a lot of people have Henry Armstrong H2H, and a few people ranked above him based on accomplishments at the weight.
     
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  13. Smokin Bert

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    Roy Jones at 168. No question!
     
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  14. The Malibu Mauler

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    Middleweight Greb imo
     
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  15. robert ungurean

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    I'd replace Benny with Duran
     
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