Would Bowe 1992 Be too Much For Marciano ?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Or is he?

    Bowe has a very slender resume outside of the Bowe fights, and he left a lot of questions unanswered.
     
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Marciano UD via workrate and inside fighting. Marciano's chin has always been comparable to Holyfield's imo. Holyfield fought the bigger punchers but was hurt more often. The difference is that Marciano's hands are nukes and Holyfield was an average puncher
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Oh I can see this Thread lasting a while
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yep , he has a very slender resume but he showed so much in that fight against an ATG . Look at Holy s stats ,in his prime he never really Lost so conclusively as he did against Big Daddy in 92 .
     
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  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I felt that way about Bowe's talent before ever reading Futch's high regard for him. When he first won the title I thought he was the MAN.

    His Achilles' heel (one of many for him, unfortunately) was what I suspect a was a pervasive fear of Lewis.

    I want to throw something out there, and please anyone school me if I'm wrong.

    I think Bowe looked up to Lewis as an older brother, originally. I think he greatly respected and admired him. Sometime Lewis fell off that pedestal in Bowe's eyes, and the fact that he looked up to him so much in the beginning made witnessing the fall extra devastating for the latter. I think the Olympics stoppage might have been a bit after Bowe had already felt betrayed.

    Again I could be completely wrong, and to Mr. Bowe if you're reading this: love you, Champ.
     
  6. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Not a deep resume true ,but he beat a top ten ATG heavy ,[imo] in Holyfield 2 out of 3 so he also answered some questions for me.
     
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  7. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Bowe is the gold standard for big men fighting inside.Marciano has no advantage there, imo.
     
  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Marciano is the platinum standard for infighting anyone
     
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  9. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually have Holyfield over Bowe, Lewis, and Tyson.

    1) Ali
    2) Louis
    3) Holmes
    4) Rocky Marciano
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    7) Lennox Lewis
    8) Mike Tyson
    9) Joe Frazier
    10) Sonny Liston
     
  10. Rainer

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    Anyone who isnt in their prime and 55 lbs heavier.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have a lot of respect for Rocky (I believe I placed him 4 in ATG), but there's immutable truth there.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I've got him at 5 , respect for what he achieved but in a realistic view I don't think he'd stand much of a chance at all here . There's only so far that Fighting on pure heart gets you . And Rocky had plenty of heart I'll say that .I don't see a come from behind type game here from him , just a painful beating over the course of the fight .
    True , you can't totally rule out a puncher but Bowe didn't suffer in the whisker s dep .
     
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  13. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No average puncher would have been able to drop Bowe, Mercer, Tyson and Douglas like Holyfield did.
     
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  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't like hypothetical fights like this because it's pretty much the size argument.

    One think I'll say though: we've seen elite small fighters beating elite big fighters. I won't say who I prefer here, but it's not out of possibility for Rocky to beat Bowe. Especially if you give him around year to prepare, spar with huge fighters and decide whether he wants to bulk up for more power or stay at his weight to have quickness advantage. Saying things like "Rocky from Moorer fight vs Bowe from Holyfield fight" isn't reasonable because they worked to beat certain type of fighters. Many people would back up Frazier over Bowe and Rocky wasn't smaller than Joe at all. Most people would back up Tyson to beat Bowe and he's like 210 lbs at his best weight? Marciano could gain muscles up to 205 lbs without any problems, especially with 1990s methods.
     
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  15. janitor

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    So is he an ATG, or just a James Douglas, who put two together?
     
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