Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

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  1. janitor

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    Again, you are assuming that Frazier was stronger than Marciano.

    I am not convinced that he was.
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Marciano is not that overrated but there is no way a fighter with a reach of 68 inches could stand a chance against Foreman.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Ruiz was fat. He was not bigger than AJ.

    Joshua was the naturally much bigger man. Ruiz only came up to Anthonys collar bone.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No I`m assuming a fighter with George`s weight was far stronger than the much smaller Marciano and thatt his lighter body would be easier to push out of range than Frazier`s.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    But Ruiz has the power to knock out big guys and hurt a trunk like AJ`s making him quit in all reality, Ruiz`s body punching waas harder in tghat fight than Marciano`s body shots were, AJ wouldn`t move his arms away from his body after taking a few of those, Ruiz was punching his whole weight.
     
  6. choklab

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    Precisely.

    Under traditional boxing training and dietary methods it would be harder to maintain functional size and strength at elite level that we see today among modern superheavyweights.

    This explains entirely why, before PEDs, the majority of drug free tall guys who trained like fighters more often appeared to have thinner arms and longer necks than the classic sized heavyweight.
     
  7. Rainer

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    Do you think you are telling me stuff I don't know?
    Loughran used to box in front of a full length mirror so he would see what his opponents saw .
    Don't try and school me on boxing , I see from pm's you have something of a reputation here as being a patronising bore who thinks he knows better than the rest of the forum and you certainly lived up to it on this thread.
    Frazier failed at lifting the weights because he had no understanding of the technique involved .
    You're dead wrong on Frazier, Eddie Futch was brought in to give him a right hand and the utilisation of that short but effective punch can be seen in his tutelage and Frazier's subsequent fights. Your assertion is unsubstantiated and as such is just your over inflated opinion . It makes about as much sense as saying Ingo or Schmeling never knocked anyone down with their left.
     
  8. Rainer

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    Joshua has never failed a drug test.You are being very free with accusations all without a shred of proof to back them up.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You cannot know that Andy Ruiz hit harder than Rocky Marciano. The guy is so fat.

    Otherwise you must believe all marciano would have to do in order to hit harder is encumber his body with 80lb of loose jelly fat.
     
  10. Rainer

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    Yes its very evident reality and Marciano fans here are complete strangers.
     
  11. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    You cannot know all heavyweights are juicing but you freely say they are.
     
  12. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua turned pro at 230 3/4lbs and he is 6'6". That is a super heavyweight in anyone's book!
     
  13. Rainer

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    Corbett,Tunney, and Klitschko had their hands low usually when out of range . Walcott did not fight with his hands down.Vitali was never lineal champion
     
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  14. choklab

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    You didn't see so many guys like Joshua until after the period where all sports became saturated with drug cheating.

    Passing a drug test just means you passed the test. It does not mean a fighter has not benefited from "modern training" that did not exist before.
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    But what woukd he weigh and what would he look like in the 1950s? All that cardio training and lean foods.

    230lb guys exited then but they gassed bad. Those guys were not built for championship boxing until advances in training and diet helped them do it.