Andy Ruiz Jr has become unbelievably overrated

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  1. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Weren't you supposed to list 20 current heavyweights?
     
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  2. Danjah

    Danjah New Member Full Member

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    You get that with most boxers and the hype around these fantasy fights. Same fight same outcome. AJ I thought would've found a way to weather the storm and win but now he's gotta go through it all again. I hope I'm wrong.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol::facepalm: Wtf is there to debate?
    Fury is a superb boxer who could beat anyone in the division.
    Wilder is actually tactically savvy enough to land that right hand on anyone.
    Andy Ruiz jr already beat Joshua, but the fight was still close. A few simple mistakes cost Joshua that night. Not to say that Ruiz doesn´t have the ability to adapt to any changes Joshua brings to the rematch.
    Parker lost to Joshua in a close fight. A lot closer than the judges had it. But Parker isn't someone who relies on inside fighting. Show me a fight where Parker did extensive work on the inside. And Joshua himself has had plenty of success fighting up close. So both men suffered that night.
    Luis Ortiz is slow, lacks head movement and footwork. Joshua has shown the ability to control his opponents at a distance. And Ortiz's biggest weakness is a counter left hook. Joshua has a good left hook.
    Usyk Small dude but likely smashes everyone in the division.
    Hrgovic untested novice stiff who lacks any head movement. Joshuas boxing is clearly tighter and cleaner.
    Michael Hunter Actually a really crafty guy. But he is nothing special.
    Hughie Fury Ugly spoiler who barely throws any punches. Joshua would just outwork him.
    Dillian Whyte Joshua already KTFO him once.
    Baby Miller Gasses around round 9, lacks power due to arm punching and is slow on his feet. Plus he is a sucker for that right hand. Everyone lands it on him.
    Kownacki Wen't life and death with Charles Martin. His defense is his face and his footwork is... well he has none.
    Rivas Lacks any sort of workrate and is one dimensional. He has a lot of potential but lack of focus seems to be a big issue.
    Efe Ajgba Completely untested! :lol: Dude is a work in progress. His main line of defense is just covering up and all he does is walk worward stiff as a board. Dude is clearly not ready for that level. But you are desperate for names so you dug up a prospect with name value.
    Izu Ugonoh The Pole who gasses in 3 and got knocked the **** out by Breazeale? :lol: I know triangle theories don't really work in boxing but come on!
    Joey Dawejko Oooh! Sparring rumors! :lol:Though dude but he is never beaten anyone even in the top 20. He gets constantly outboxed because he is one dimensional.
    Bredis Would make for a good heavy but is a Cruiserweight.
    Gassiev Just walks forward in a high guard, waiting to throw punches. Dude has no idea how to set up his offense. Joshua would have a field day just like Usyk did.
    Dorticos A top Cruiser with no defense. Slow and predictable.
     
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Maybe true but he's not a guy to be taken lightly by anyone.
     
  5. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    They all whoop the bodybuilder
     
  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Time for you to get banned I think.
     
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  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Please, he’s underrated. He has a granite chin, an active guard, he parries and counters with lightning fast combinations that he really sits on. I favour him against everyone other than Fury. He’ll show that it wasn’t a fluke, just wait and see.
     
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  8. Up the gut

    Up the gut Active Member banned Full Member

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    Totally agree. Hes top 10 all time but the notion that hes the best ever is to early at this stage, if he beats Parker and Fury then yes i'll have to admit hes the best ever
     
  9. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Aww can't handle the truth?
     
  10. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I’m going to take Holyfield’s word for it, and trust what I can see. Ruiz is a special fighter.


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  11. BigStiffIdiot

    BigStiffIdiot Safer than Adam Smith's laptop password. Full Member

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    Ruiz has been ridiculously overrated and AJ has become very underrated. That is how fickle the sport is.
     
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  12. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Absolute Muppets abound

    "Yeah mayne, ruiz is special mayne"

    Weren't nobody saying this before he chinned the bodybuilder was there??

    And it's not like that was a crazy performance by ruiz he did what he always does.

    Ruiz is an ok fighter

    AJ is awful

    Ruiz will chin the bodybuilder again then get wrecked by Usyk, who everyone will go overboard with him too. This division sucks.

    End of story "mayne"
     
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  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Actually, plenty of people gave Ruiz his credit. He arguably beat Parker. But the thing with Ruiz is that he has looked like **** on several occasions. Barely beat a way past it Liakhovich some time back.

    Did you pick Ruiz beforehand?
     
  14. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No I didn't, I figured the bodybuilder would scrape past him in likely controversial fashion.
     
  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Then don't go acting like a snarky little brat.
    Joshua at the moment has beaten more top contenders than anyone else in the division. It might be a **** division but he did it.
    Yet you say that absolutely everyone beats him... Then how come did he make it that far? Let me guess, you are gonna start throwing around excuses, right? A was too old, B was stopped too soon, C got ****ed by the ref...

    But only excuses that fit your bias. No credit for Joshua or no excuses, am I right?
     
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