Worst style match up for Prime Muhammad Ali of everyone?

Lol no! Joe Frazier could never stop James Toney. Toney would do absolutely fine against a swarmer like Frazier. Swarmers are absolutely tailor made for Toney. See what happened when volume punching swarmer in Vasily Jirov faced James Toney. Or when Iran Barkley faced James Toney.

It's Frazier's swarming tactics that are going to be ineffective against a back-foot counter-punching master like James Toney.

 

He also moves his head, WHILST holding a high guard > moving your head wildly and carelessly WHILST having your hands down.

Not sure what's wrong with having your hands up. Having 2 layers of defense is clearly superior to a single layer of defense.

Getting touched up? Should I point out the number of times Ali has been touched up by less than stellar opposition? Gimme a break!

Admit it, you were wrong when you stated Usyk doesn't move his head!

 

And no high-volume swarmer beats James Toney at his best

 

Well yes, clearly, since a total bum named Jimmy Young (a poor man's Usyk in absolutely EVERY department) not only lasted 3 rounds, but lasted the full distance whilst dropping, schooling and beating Foreman.

Keep in mind that this Jimmy Young bum has 19 losses out of his record.

What do you think then Usyk would do to an absolute farce like Foreman if Young is nearly killing Foreman? Mismatch?

 

The man with no style, ali said it himself.

 

If he gives Ali a beating I think its fair to say he catches up to Toney too. The best pressure fighter at Heavy ever arguably, beats James Toney !

 

Can not believe some of the Stupid Posts on here....I think we are in a new Era where not only Boxing has become a bit of a joke with Credibility issues it looks like some of the so called Fan's have also.!!!

 

Toney v Prime Frazier, who you got ???

 

Tony I recognise more as one of the Great Middleweights You want me to compare him to one of the Great Heavyweights ? I am old School I will never do it.!!!!

 

Frazier would annihilate fat heavyweight James Toney. The placement of Vassilly Jirov and Frazier in the same sentence is some master trolling on the part of senor Luis Fernando.

 

Ray Mercer

 

Him, and prime Ken Norton.

Eddie Futch, who trained both, is the common denominator here: Ali always seemed to have a hard time with Futch-trained fighters.

 

Lewis got hit with far more jabs than a prime Ali did.

 

Yes, Futch stated that he trained Frazier to bob his head erratically so Ali couldn`t time him consistently with the jab and he told Norton to jab with Ali to disrupt him and stop him setting up his punches with the jab.

 

Ali would have boxed Mercer`s ears off.