Who is the actual better boxer GGG or Canelo?

I would personally say Canelo, but the problem with Canelo is that's he a good/skillful fighter who's taken PEDS and has the judges on his side which has lowered his reputation. He's a quality fighter, though.

 

No, no, no. Park Si-Hun defeated RJJ at the olympics. Go look it up. RJJ won silver and Park won gold.

 

wrong that is like that.

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Different styles; each better at different aspects of the game.

In terms of their level, they're more or less in the same ballpark, with a slight edge to Golovkin, who should have won both fights close but clear on my scorecards.

 

Canelo has more than just speed. Golovkin has that good amateur style using the jab which is a big deal in the amateur because one jab scores exactly the same as an uppercut in the ams. Canelo has a pro style where his main goal is to land the harder cleaner punches. Canelo uses feints very well, much better than Golovkin, he also has much better defense which is another scoring criteria in the pros, and Canelo is an excellent counter puncher, he can also fight with a pressure style and in the middle of the ring.

Canelo boxed beautifully against Jacobs, and he also kept the pressure against GGG and beat him up more than anyone ever had.

 

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GGG hit Canelo with a good shot in the 10th, it was like when Mosley hit Floyd with a good shot in the 2nd round. It only took GGG about 22 rounds to finally land something big on Canelo. And then what happened, Canelo shook it off and got back to giving GGG the beating of his life.

 

GGG had his moments down the stretch, but Canelo set a relentless pace throughout the first 8 rounds, taking the fight to GGG, forcing GGG to retreat. GGG started to close the gap in rounds 9 and 10, but he was still being outworked. GGG just wasn't able to land enough hard clean shots. You can't win rounds with light jabs unless you prevent your opponent from landing big shots on you. Canelo ate some jabs but in doing so he was able to load up with big shots that GGG couldn't avoid. He just wasn't able to keep Canelo off him in the majority of the rounds. Canelo took the fight to GGG Mexican Style and aside from that brief moment in the 10th GGG didn't have any answers to the relentlessness Canelo brought, to the fight GGG asked for.

 

GGG won round 1 and round 4. Canelo on the other hand won rounds 2, 3, 5 and 6 with big punches. So Canelo had built himself a nice lead by the mid-way point. From there, it was an uphill battle for GGG, and GGG didn't step up enough in rounds 7 and 8. While relatively close again Canelo was still landing the better shots.

Which rounds did you think GGG won besides rounds 1, 4 and 10 ? I know the judges had him winning the 11th but Canelo landed a number of clean shots down the stretch of that round. The 12th I gave to GGG but really could have went either way.

Giving GGG both the 11th and the 12th is extremely generous to GGG, and that's really the only way you can score it to GGG. Canelo fought him tooth and nail in each of those rounds, they are both pretty much toss up rounds. If you are being fair and unbiased you really need to split those rounds. Even the 10th, a round that I gave to GGG, as GGG had that big moment, Canelo still outworked GGG and according to compubox landed 3 more power punches.

As far as who got backed up to the ropes more, Canelo was only on the ropes for a brief moment in the rematch. Canelo was backing GGG up for most of the fight, but you're right, GGG didn't hit the ropes as GGG is not comfortable fighting off the ropes so he avoids it. Canelo has shown in the first fight he is very comfortable going back to the ropes and is skilled at fighting off the ropes. GGG does not know how to fight off the ropes so he makes an effort to avoid it. Rounds aren't won or lost by who's back hits the ropes more. I know many GGG fans pride themselves on GGG not going back to the ropes, but it doesn't mean anything in terms of how you score rounds. It's who lands the better cleaner punches.

 

I agree GGG impressed in the 12th. I gave GGG the 12th but I gave Canelo the 11th. The point is he didn't win either the 11th or 12th clearly. They were both arguable to either guy. I was really impressed with GGG's footwork in the 12th, and that combo for sure. Canelo landed some decent shots in the 12th but GGG really showcased his boxing skill in the 12th. Also the 9th is another tough one to score if I remember.

But here's the point, GGG was clearly losing the fight after the first 8 rounds. Even Abel Sanchez his trainer said he was losing in the corner. I agree GGG came back especially in the 10th and fought valiantly in the late rounds, but he had ground to make up for falling behind over the first 2/3s of the bout. G didn't win either 7 8 or 9 convincingly. Maybe you can argue he edged one of those rounds but not 2 out of those 3. So again, you got round 1, 4, 10, then 11 OR 12, but not both, and maybe you can argue he won one of rounds 7-9, but that's a stretch as Canelo arguably one each of those rounds. So unless you are really trying to give GGG anything close, that's at most 5 rounds.