Is Ruiz an all time great HW?

Is Bermane Stiverne an ATG if he beats AJ, Fury, Wilder?

 

All Time Gorger on snicker bars maybe

 

Ruiz would be the only ATG who can't skip rope for 5 minutes straight.

 

post your abs or stfu

 

I actually keep forgetting that. (see? at least the mods aren't rubbing the fact that we can embed pics in everyone's faces by doing it on a constant basis, even though we can...)

Also you can always just upload to a site like Tinypic and just post the URL. It takes, what, .005 seconds to ctrl+left-click to quickly pull up a pic in a separate tab?

I understand that embedding makes life easier, but...are we that lazy in 2019? we can't briefly open, glimpse & shut a new freaking browser tab?

 

Is this really a question? An all time great? HELL NO!

 

I mean...looking at his entire boxing career holistically, pairing the amateur with the pros - suggesting that it might be attainable for him is hardly ridiculous. you have to bear in mind and keep in context that he spent probably half of his prime on putting the finishing touches on building a near-GOAT legacy in the amateurs, before crossing over. and since his debut, has accomplished more than 99.99% of boxers in barely over a dozen bouts.

It doesn't take a great leap of faith to extrapolate that he could've been a several division champion with like two dozen championship match victories if he turned pro a few years earlier than he did.

whoops, thought i was responding in the Vasyl Lomachenko thread... ignore me..

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Possibly not but I think he is the higher rated HW Ruiz at this time imo

How was it shameful against Johnson when he was hit low many times and the ref warned Johnson several times. Also you are completely wrong again in that Ruiz didnt make any complaint when Johnson hit him low the final time. the ref saw it and ended the fight due to it happening so many times.

Now, I am not a fan of holding. Didnt like it in Ward or Hatton fights either but Holyfield was often mentioned to have used the headbutt, so I am surprised you are so worried about one fighter and not the other. Also many feel he beat Holyfield the first time

Often fighters get a decision that is unpopular to some. Ruiz didnt get the first decision against Holyfield or the decision against Valuev

Cant see how you get rate it so low? Still each to their own

regardless of where he ends up, he still has a bit to go before I think he has done more than the other HW Ruiz

 

If Ruiz genuinely beat

- AJ rematch
- fury
-wilder
-Parker twice in a rubber match

Then yeah, he would be up there

 

If he does beat those three by KO, it will be over a long period of time probably a few years at least, maybe more, so he would have the resume, champion for a long period of time, and be undisputed champion, so I say yes definitely a all time great heavyweight.

I voted before reading the first post unfortunately, wish the full question was in the poll, because I voted wrong.

 

Unified WBO champion
(Worst Body Odor)

 

yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If he keeps winning and cleans out the scene.