James Toney v Canelo Alvarez at Middleweight

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Who wins?

  1. Toney

    24 vote(s)
    92.3%
  2. Canelo

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He received a gift draw vs Whitaker, they flat out stole the crown back from Randall, got a gift stoppage vs Taylor. He showed zero interest in a Whitaker rematch or an immediate Randall rubber match. Like Canelo he had everything stacked in his favor. Unlike Canelo, he didn’t give immediate rematches.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He was the first fighter to hold Pernell to a draw. (OK, I had it by a point or two for Pea). He got Randall into difficulty the second time around. And the repeat against Taylor was hardly a gift stoppage. He was obliterating him... much like the first time around, from which Mel never recovered.

    All this a good 3 to 6 years after Julio's prime.
     
  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you must be a Toney hater. playing that old game of putting the worst version of one fighter against the best version of another fighter. A pretty irrelevant scenario for fantasy matchups.
     
  4. he grant

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    No, he was given a gift vs Whitaker.

    No, the Randall rematch was a despicable robbery , one that Chavez allowed without giving Randall the same return he revived. If anyone was hurt in the ring in that fight it was Chavez.

    Didn't say the repeat w Taylor was a gift. The first time was. The Taylor rematch was given years later at a time of Chgavez's choosing when Taylor was a drugged out mess. As for the first bout, if you claim that a fighter getting out punched and outboxed over eleven rounds to drop an exhausted opponent in the finals seconds and get a stoppage obliterating him we have different definitions of that term. I call it as gift storage.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Chavez destroyed Taylor, physically and mentally. The dude was a wreck after Julio was done with him. The stoppage was more than warranted.
     
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