Will Eddie Hearn Force Joshua Into Ruiz Jr Rematch Against His Will?

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Why exactly? AJ is the money maker, without AJ there is little hearn, I've seen time and time again Hearn acknowledging his 'place' in the grand scheme of things, as being a promoter who AJ could fire if needs be.

    I know exactly what the problem is here, the problem is your style of writing, and your aggressive, toxic personality that is apparent in every letter you write.

    I should teach you how to write in a more neutral, less toxic, reader friendly manner.

    HAD you said something along the lines off -

    "Guys, I got word from some of those that know AJ personally that he is thinking of taking preparatory fights before diving back in with Ruiz, what do you guys think??? Personally I am CONCERNED that AJ might not be feeling CONFIDENT enough in his ability at this stage to take an immediate rematch, perhaps he should take a few tune ups to build his confidence again???"

    And HAD you put a thread title of -

    " Is AJ being pressured to fight Ruiz immediately? Should he rethink?"

    Then you would get MUCH more respect on these forums, and it would be MORE inviting for people to share their opinions with you and to discuss your opinion.

    Instead, your frothing at the mouth, lambasting, aggressive biased ill-mannered attitude towards certain fighters, and spewing of recycled narratives is just not helpful.

    @Sephiroth Rising 7 If Seph had the moral fibre to admit that it is actually Wilder who is subservient to his overlords, much like Ortiz who turned down 5 million payday at 64 years of age.... then we might be able to solve world peace by next week.

    But Seph's moral compass is so ****ed up that it's unfortunate he finds his way out of bed everyday day to write crap. If he wrote better content, I wouldn't say such things.
     
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  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Joshua is going to make huge money from this rematch less we forget. Poor old Jr's 10m is probably less than 25% of the gross.
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Nice way to duck out of addressing my points.

    Once again prove you are out of your depth.

    Even more laughable that you have Dillian Whyte in your avatar. This guy who was in the same room sharing a laugh with the leather faced clown Barry Hearn who more or less told Whyte stories on how lucky today that he was being forced to treat him with respect and how far along they've come from the good ol slave trade days.

    Dillian Whyte proved in that interview giggling like a schoolgirl while Barry mocked him and spoke of him as if he was his own pet mutt that he trained to perform tricks, that he loves being owned.
     
  4. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I'd argue that AJ has in fact contributed greatly to humanity, he has certainly influenced millions of young men of colour to say no to crime, get off the streets and get into a boxing gym because that's where he came from personally and now he is among the highest paid athletes in the world.

    Besides, there are plenty of rich individuals that contribute significantly less than AJ while earning significantly more than AJ, and while ALSO RUINING humanity for the rest of the world.

    Footballers get paid as much and more, and not all give back to the community like AJ.

    Dictators like Hosni Mubarak of Egypt who was ousted from presidency siphoned 70 Billion US dollars in aid to Egypt from the people of Egypt leaving 40 Million Egyptians to live below the breadline for several decades.
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Actually I did address your points, go back and read again, consider yourself educated.

    All the other waffle about Whyte is clearly emotional venting on your part, the distress is apparent in every letter you wrote, so I'll just give you some space to cool off.

    I hope you learned something from your education today, to write better content in the future.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Talk about a fiery thread! I for one am enjoying it. :)
     
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  7. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not necessarily disagreeing with you - but influencing "millions" is a big statement, what's your evidence for that?

    Also, the big difference between football and boxing is that there are lots of football stars, but not as many boxing stars. Because there is less of them and world champions are the face of the sport - they are more required to be in the public eye for doing 'good'.
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You slimy dishonest weasel.

    You did not address my points until I accused you of avoiding my points so don't pretend as if I simply overlooked your post. Everyone can see you only edited your post a quarter of an hour later to include your reply.

    What waffle of Dillian Whyte btw?

    Did you miss the interview with Barry Hearn where Whyte was falling over himself with laughter after Barry Hearn took the majority of the press conference to reminisce fondly about the good ole slave trading days?
     
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Whyte and Miller look like those Cops that use steroids.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    A master manipulator doesn't show his hand.

    All of that is Eddie Hearn merely paying lip service to placate and appeal to Joshua's ego, so he can feel as if he is the one in control on the surface when really he is not.

    Behind the scenes, Eddie Hearn is the one pulling the strings.

    Of course if Joshua was smart, he'd promote himself and get away from the Hearns. Sadly the hearns' are good at whispering poison into people's ears.

    No doubt they'll be telling Joshua that if he knows what's good for him and his career that the best place is with Matchroom and no where else would he be doing better for himself. They'd have conditioned him to believe that he needs sky and MR if he has any hope to have a future in boxing.

    Right now AJ would not likely be able to just fire Eddie Hearn since he's likely to be legally bound to a MR contract which he probably hasn't fully read and comprehended or noticed the small print.

    So you want a more diluted PC friendly Mr Nice writing style? Well you've come to the wrong place for that. I make no apologies for my views or how I express them.

    You are more than welcome to ignore/overlook my threads and put me on ignore. That is what any reasonable person would do who felt so repelled and couldn't stomach by someone's views all the bloody time.

    You've reminded me why I placed you and your former alts on ignore because I myself couldn't stomach the repetitive troll like drivel.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I accidentally pressed post before I finished editing my response, I apologise to you, and merely said go back and read.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You can share your opinions, just express them with less toxicity, more coherency perhaps? A touch of basil and oregano for good measure...???

    Just be a better writer, form better structured arguments, and we'll take you more seriously.
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Perhaps a slight exaggeration on my part, but when you really look at it AJ has millions of viewers around the world. Even professional fighters in other combat sports are fully aware of AJ's presence, status and contribution to the combat sports.

    So this access to millions world wide, will have no doubt implanted a seed of some sorts in each mind, perhaps not enough to convince someone to make a drastic life change, but at least the thought was there for a good moment or two.

    So yes, AJ has influenced millions, the real question of measure is how much has he influenced them.

    I don't have any stats on Boxing Gym memberships, but it's clear there has been a surge in interest, specifically of coloured me, to take up boxing.
     
  14. Robney

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    If Joshua doesn't want it, that still would be the best move for Hearn to make imo, because if he would pull out of the immidiate rematch clause, pretty sure we'll get Ruiz vs Wilder next as A "mega super duper ninja turbo" unification fight and Joshua would have to get in line after. He might get frozen out "Whyte style" if he doesn't.
    He has to take the risk and the probably huge payday that comes with it.
     
  15. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Who's ''we''?

    You only speak for yourself.

    Better structured argument you say! I am not doing a degree assessment I'm writing a message on a boxing forum for those who mostly have short attention spans

    I quickly write something up and correct it any obvious errors but will not go to the trouble of proof reading every little thing to appease a petty pedant

    If I was being paid to produce perfect error free literature, then I'd consider your opinion worthy of note.