Andy Ruiz Jr. :”I’m not fighting with AJ in the UK! I’m the A-side!”

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  1. amunz81

    amunz81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    who cares that he wasn't the mandatory, point is he won! he's right, he's now the champ and the A-side. I don't think he has a problem giving hi the rematch, he just doesn't want it in the UK. I cant say I blame him. I wouldn't either. good for him. stand your ground homie!
     
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  2. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    OH Dear, so blinded by hatred that you spout jibberish!

    Even without the belts Joshua will pull the biggest live crowds, sell the most ppvs, bring biggest sponsors & advertisers.

    Any heavyweight who wants to get well paid still has to face Joshua!
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Heard Eddie on Chris Mannix's Sports Illustrated Boxing podcast...he didn't seem bothered by Ruiz' comments and said specifically that all this was worked out in the contract. Whether true or not, I don't know but that's what Eddie said.
     
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  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Not sure what Ruiz or Joshua want is ultimately that relevant. AJ vs Ruiz was meant to launch his career stateside, make him a star over there and - as byproduct - solidify Hearn's place in the US market; and far more importantly give a boost to DAZN as the service continues to find its place alongside the other networks. I can't see the rematch happening anywhere else than the US. Those motivations haven't changed just because he took a loss.

    In fact, if the derailed train is going to get back on track, doing so in the UK with very little American sporting attention cast upon it, isn't going to achieve much apart from get the belts back. I can see why AJ is solely focused on this, but Hearn has other considerations to serve.

    As to whether the location is in the contract, there's lots of people talking with misplaced certainty about a document they can't possibly have seen, so who knows if that detail was written in?
     
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 The Empire Struck Back Full Member

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    A classic case of American entitlement. He's already had a fight on home soil. To entirely rule out returning the favors is pretty pathetic IMO.

    If he said I want the fight where it makes the most money I'd say fine no matter where that was.
     
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  6. amunz81

    amunz81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I understand where your coming from. but as corrupt and political as boxing is, why go over there and risk being robbed of a decision (considering it goes the distance)?
    he won the title, I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to keep the fight in the US. hes earned that right fair and square.
     
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  7. wucking fasted

    wucking fasted Anthony Joshua - the Bob Sapp of boxing Full Member

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    So are you saying that Ruiz is not the champion until he beats Joshua twice?
    If he beats AJ again will he be able to choose where the fights take place?
     
  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I think you might want to call it British Entitlement.

    Let me know how many times Joshua has fought outside the uk in someone else's backyard?

    Even when they had no belts, they expected belt holders to travel to fight to the uk
     
  9. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    So do all these PBC fighters get given the same script to read from? They all say the same things.
     
  10. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, if Ruiz is expressing his desire to hold the rematch in the U.S, it's probably because he feels he's in a position to ensure that happens.

    In terms of financial considerations, as previously stated in this thread, it likely makes more sense to hold the rematch in the U.S. anyway in order to ensure that Matchroom has the best chance to gain a foothold in the stateside market. If Ruiz doesn't find the terms agreeable, he may well take on someone who is a mandatory (Pulev perhaps), secure a career high payday, and wait for someone to approach him with terms he finds more agreeable. Either way, it seems clear that he feels he has some options at his disposal.
     
  11. wucking fasted

    wucking fasted Anthony Joshua - the Bob Sapp of boxing Full Member

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    American entitlement?
    Ruiz is the champion.
    Why should he travel to the UK just because the challenger wants the fight in front of his home crowd?

    I think you meant to say 'classic case of British entitlement'.

    Also you say that Joshua was doing Ruiz a favour by fighting in the USA.

    AJ Came to the USA to showcase his 'talent' to the Americans, not as a favour to Ruiz.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is what I've been saying since the win.

    Ruiz calls the shots now. He's the A-Side.

    Unless the contract is cast iron there's absolutely no expectation on Ruiz to fight for a smaller purse in Joshua's home country.

    If the contract isn't cast iron, Joshua will have to accept his role, take the short end of the purse and dance to the tune of Ruiz if he wants the belts back.
     
  13. Ian_k

    Ian_k Active Member Full Member

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    I would guess that it was in the original contract that there was a rematch clause should aj loose.
    With a venue of their choice on the rematch
     
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  14. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll park this next to the "I want $50 mil"

    The terms of the rematch have already been signed.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    I'm not sure you're even being serious.
    The fight was in New York because Joshua wanted to fight in New York and showcase his abilities for an American audience. You make it sound like Joshua did his American challenger a special favour by coming to America to defend against him. But that's not the case at all.
    Joshua wanted to take over America and needed a challenger, preferably American.
    They settle on Miller who blew it, and got Ruiz in for the job instead, after a couple of others probably turned it down.