Nowhere! Once he actually cleans out and totally dominates the division for a prolonged period, such as for multiple years, ONLY then will he even qualify as a worthy candidate to be evaluated in terms of where he could rank in the 'All Time' status.
*IF* he can definitively prove the best of this era (with guys like Fury, Ruiz, and AJ), I reckon his ceiling is higher than many here seem to believe.
Wilder has faced three top 10 Ring rated heavies (yes i know the Ring is the not the end all but their ratings have been a good barometer of the divisions best fighters for over 70 years) He went the distance with Stiverne and won, He ko'd Ortiz a legit skilled heavy, however old and off peds for which he tested positive twice before in his career, and was gifted a draw with Fury. Let's be clear Fury went to his backyard and beat him. 2-1. He did not clear out any of the previous era's best heavies. No Wlad, no Povetkin, No Tony Thompson, etc. He has yet to face Joshua, or beat Fury, Or Ruiz. In October he will turn 34 years old. So odds that he cleans out this era or even the next era, are SLIM. I think if he beats Joshua - who now has already been beaten, Ruiz, and Fury. He can make a claim as a top 40 heavyweight. I think that is his ceiling. Which is not an awful rating and far higher than what his skills appear to be for me.
I respectfully disagree. If Wilder beats all those guys and stakes a claim as the best for even a short number of years, I think that warrants something considerably higher than top 40. A big IF - but, still, if he can do that, I'd be mighty impressed. But that goes for any one of those guys (or anyone else) - any boxer that cleans out this era - again, big IF - but if it happens, I think history will look back more kindly than you're suggesting.
I think Briggs was technically more skilled, but I don't believe he had power like Wilder. Briggs can crack for sure, and his biggest issues probably stemmed from his asthma/stamina, but I don't think his power is on Wilder's level. I honestly probably agree (to at least some extent) with the greater point you're making, but I don't think Briggs belonged with the other names (and probably not Baer, either).
"Would probably get destroyed by" means absolutely nothing. If he beats fury, Joshua and Ruiz and retires undisputed he's more accomplished than vitali ever was
Wilder looks so damn sloppy when he punches, it almost looks as if most of his knockouts are "acccidental", so to speak. Like he just wings it and gets good shots in there. This isn't true, of course, but that's what it looks like. If it weren't for how weak the HW division still is - weak meaning there aren't a whole lot of fighters out there who have the technical skill it would take to beat the beast that is Wilder - he would have lost big long ago, I honestly think 80s Tyson, old Foreman, Holyfield, Mercer, Moore, Bowe, Lewis, Wald, Vitali, Sanders, and maybe even McCall would give Wilder big problems. Maybe even the Douglas that fought Tyson. In case you haven't noticed, I don't care much for Wilder. Some of my opinions may be due to that. All time status? Nothing significant. I mean, if a crop of high level heavies pop up out of nowhere in the next few years and Wilder mows them all down, I'd consider him for the top 20 or so.
At this rate and his age, way way below. If he was truly confident, he’d line them all up. Take 50/50 or less from all of them, there’s more to be gained after becoming undisputed.
