Who’s the hardest hitting boxer of all time?

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but to be fair, Holmes was hurt just as badly by a single right hand from Renaldo Snipes.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But why? Louis wasn't smaller than Shavers at all and he KOed much more durable fighters and defensive specialists than Shavers. His punching power in the film also passes the eye test.
     
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  3. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jimmy young
     
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  4. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s got to be Foreman.
     
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  5. Arminius1

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    Fitzsimmons is number 1
    Dempey number 2
    Liston number 3
    Foreman number 4
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    You are continually getting power mixed up with ability when it comes to Shavers. No-ones saying he is great.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    On a p4p basis it makes great sense tho. Many take into account weight when throwing heavyweights into these p4p lists.

    Louis during his peak years would have averaged out just over 200 pounds. Louis was an enormous puncher.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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  9. KasimirKid

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    You can look on film at what Marciano did to Jersey Joe Walcott, twice, Harry Kid Matthews, and Rex Layne. All pretty close to one-punch kayos. Not just knockdowns, but kayos. And his demolition jobs on Charles, Cockell, LaStarza, and Moore are impressive as well. There are fewer fights on film of Marciano than the more modern fighters and overall he matches up well by comparison. He had as good one-punch power as anyone.l
     
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  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But then we compare them only based on anecdotes and stories. Louis stopped better fighters and more durable fighters than Shavers. His power passes the eye test and he's not smaller than Earnie. Why should I assume that Shavers was clearly more powerfull hitter?
     
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  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    I didn't say you should assume Shavers was clearly the more powerful hitter. You threw Shavers down a lot more notches than that. You are putting forward a resume based response only.

    Louis was most certainly a bit smaller than Shavers.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Louis`s biceps were very slim compared to Shavers, Earnie had more one punch power but Louis was a better finisher because he hit fighters with fast, powerful combos, Tyson was the only other heavyweight that could finish with great combos, AJ is pretty good too, but if he doesn`t stop Ruiz in the rematch then he`s not near Tyson or Joe`s level in terms of finishing.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Maybe but most of his punches weren`t that hard compared to some of the bigger heavyweight champs, he was more of a solid wear you dpown kind of puncher, he landed in a lot of shots, if he hit as hard as Wilder, no way could fighters he punched that much have lasted so long.
     
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