Who was greater...Lennox Lewis or Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who was the greatest of the UK fighters?
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Neither of them are top 3

    But Lewis > Calzhage by a very long way
     
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    Sorry for the typo guys...
     
  4. Tonto62

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    Of those two Lewis
     
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  5. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can i see your top 5?
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    I've not made a top 5 but the top 3 of the top of my head are
    Jimmy Wilde, Bob Fitzsimmons and Ted Kid Lewis, then Lennox Lewis
    And probably Owen Moran and Jack Berg and some other guys before Calzhage
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Knight them both and be done with it!
     
  8. ribtickler68

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    Lewis for me. I don't think Joe would have been undefeated if he had fought Jones or Hopkins at their best. Very hard to beat, though, in fairness.
     
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    I agree with your top 3. I think they are clearly the head of the pack, while Lewis, Berg, and Calzaghe are in the sort of second tier. 'Peerless' Jim and Freddie Welsh are also in the second bunch imo. Tough to compare across eras though.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    I don't think hes undefeated against Old Hopkins tbh
     
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    Neither do I.
     
  12. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Finqlly a question that is easy to answer: Lewis by a country mile. And, I am not much of a Lewis fan.
     
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  13. Seamus

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    Calzaghe is the best you Limeys have produced. And you had to borrow him from Sardegna to do it. Be thankful for your gifts and carry on.
     
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    This is kind of close.

    Lewis has a legitimate argument for being a top 3 heavy ever.

    Calzaghe could be the #1 SMW in history.

    On the other hand Lewis can point to his resume which is stacked with "name fighters". Calzaghe has these too, but the common criticism is that he fought guys like RJJ and Hopkins when he was old. However, the very same point can be made about Old Tyson and Old Holyfield.

    Calzaghe is unbeaten. Lewis has avenged all his defeats.

    Zaggers beat a very good version of Kessler when he himself was old .... but then Lewis has the Vitali win. He also dodged the rematch though.

    I'd nudge towards Calzaghe being the better man, because when he was on song he looked next level and untouchable.

    On the other hand I totally get the argument for Lewis.
     
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  15. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Competion- Lewis.

    Ability- Probably Lewis but very close

    Watchableness- Lewis by a mile even though he was in some average fights, Calzaghe was in some absolute stinkers and was one of the worst "great" fighters I've seen from an aesthetic standpoint

    Legacy- Lewis. At worst a top 10 in a great division. Joe was one of the better 168 pounders without beating a great fighter in a historically pretty shallow division (through no fault of his own Jones, Toney, Benn etc weren't viable opponents during his or their prime).

    Therefore I pick Lennox.