Manny Pacquiao Has To Kill Someone To Earn A KO...

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  1. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    What lean muscle gain? Aside from no longer cutting weight, he's been the same size on fight night (consistently 148-149).

    What refusal to test? He wanted a cut off during a period where PEDs would provide no benefits per PED experts. He has been VADA-tested 5X and hurt/dropped every opponent in those fights. He's also enrolled in the VADA Clean Boxing Program.

    What power increase? He hasn't registered a KO outside of Matthysse in a decade.

    Accusations by his peers = proof?

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  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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  3. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What refusal to test? He wanted a cut off during a period where PEDs would provide no benefits per PED experts. He has been VADA-tested 5X and hurt/dropped every opponent in those fights. He's also enrolled in the VADA Clean Boxing Program.

    What power increase? He hasn't registered a KO outside of Matthysse in a decade.

    Accusations by his peers = proof?

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    dont even know why i am engaging here but just how did Manny's wrists grow in size? genuine question ?
     
  4. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    dont even know why i am engaging here but just how did Manny's wrists grow in size? genuine question ?[/QUOTE]

    His wrist grew in size?

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  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His wrist grew in size?

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    of course they have?! are you genuinely claiming to be a massive pac fan and not noticed or picked up on this ? seriously ?

    PS i am not attacking Pac, IMO he has been the most entertaining fighter I have ever watched. Easily in my fave all time list
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Your head does not get bigger from 20-30 in the manner his did. And yes, putting on 15 pounds of lean muscle in your mid 30s without losing speed is highly questionable. Name another fighter who went up 8 weight classes and who's power seemingly increased along the way. Again, this is the exact same mind of circumstancial evidence being used to villify one guy so it's reasonable to expect one to question it here. Trying to turn this into a fick measuring contest asking me if I've ever lifted weights is a waste of time
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well one is complete rumours based on some willy billy ideas of what steroid does to you, lol.

    And ye I ask if you ever lifted weights because in my first year of lifting weights I gained 20lbs of muscle, the idea of Pac having to be on steroids to gain muscle is a joke that could only come from someone who’s never touched weights in his life.

    I’m not even fronting but I look way more “bulked” up than Pac and I’ve never touched roids in my life, and this goes for pretty much anyone who’s spent some time lifting weights. Which makes sense since Pac is no bodybuilder.

    And his power didn’t increase p4p, lol, he was knocking dudes out at 122-130, iron chinned mofos. He can’t do that at WW unless they open up.

    Srl, odlh, Hearns I’m sure hit harder 5 weight divisions up from where they started. Did they hit as hard p4p? Probably not.

    Your logic is ridiculous to begin with, it’s like nobody can do great things or break records because that can only be done with roids. That’s 10 year old logical fallacy at work there.

    The other was flat out caught. Now you know that al haymon has serious pull so let’s not pretend you don’t know what’s going on here.

    https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada
     
  8. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I swear I'm this close to sharing my picture when I was a teen vs now in my 30s.
    My head looks visibly larger too, even though I'm sporting a shorter hair presently, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW EVERYBODY IS HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES.
    Seriously, and I kid you not, if you're from the west and you go here, you'll be surprised at the average head circumference of the locals.
    We have larger heads than you, yes, even if you are a foot taller, we still have bigger domes.

    FFS get a life people.

    Don't even get me started with the whole his wrist grew in size sh%t.
    I have a photo side my side with him and his wrist size is ordinary here.
    Darn it my hand actually looks bigger and we are of the same size (I may be an inch taller too).
     
  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    The fact that you sited your intial gains as a bro lifter as proof that a professional athelete in his 30s can add the same amount of weight without losing any speed is laughable. Secondly, do you even know what circumstancial evidence is? I'm not even arguing Manny is on roids, I'm arguing that there is just as much circumstancial evidence to suggest he is as anyone, yet it's being ignored here out of bias. My suggestion is to stop accusing anyone without hard proof but we know that won't happen. I wrestled and played football my entire life so yes I have touched a few weights in my day, but again I'm choosing not to make this a dick measuring contest as I don't really care all that much about the topic in general
     
  10. Paranoid Android

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    Manny at age 16. Big ass dome. It got even bigger as he grew into adulthood. His body is small, which makes his dome that much bigger. His son also has a big ass dome. If he starts working out and melting away all the fat and gets shredded, his head will be even bigger.
     
  11. dangerousity

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    Yes the fact that I, a nobody can gain 20lbs of muscle in a year without roids is pretty relevant to making a claim that a malnourished genetic freak like Pac can gain 10lbs over 5 years. Are you slow?

    There is nothing circumstantial about your claim, floyd was caught, it could be argued that he was outright caught or VERY strong circumstantial evidence in his case.

    Your argument against Pac is not circumstantial cos it’s logically flawed. Let’s break them down shall we?

    - gained 10lbs - so what? As I just proven and every other person who’s ever touched a weight in their life, you don’t need roids for that.

    - bigger head? Please show me his head size measurements before and after and then cite me the research that links head size to steroids.

    - more power? Well duh, your power increases as you gain more weight, power = acceleration x mass learn some basic physics. He’s still much weaker p4p.

    - he did amazing things that no one has done before. Well let’s just stop and look at how crazy the premise of that argument is in the first place. By that logic, anytime, anyone has ever broken some sort of record or achieved anything that hasn’t been done before, they’re guilty of ped. Please.

    Meanwhile Floyd gets caught with Unapproved IV, you’re suppose to file for the TUE before the fight, they did 21 days after. Initially nsac was furious, then calmed down lmao. Then his test levels were way off the charts.

    Basically, unless you think floyd is a Spence sized WW which is funny as everyone claims he’s so small and has been extremely dehydrated all this time, everything he did, the low test levels, the medical staff, the covering up of IVgate is 99.99% sure he was doping and covering it up.

    You may as well say OJ is innocent.

    One scenario is somebody claims they bedded 100 women and your puny brain can’t comprehend that another man can do that so you assume he must have date raped all of them.

    Another scenario we have multiple charges for **** against another man.

    And you equate them to the same thing. Had it been Pac caught with IV gate, lmao, it wouldn’t even be a discussion. Think about that for a second.
     
  12. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Many, many of Pacquiaos peers have accused him of taking peds. I haven't heard anyone talk about ivs except for bitter pac fans. Your man crush is on juice and everyone knows it.
     
  13. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    You think an American fighter living in America (who's already signed with Haymon, probably) is gonna go off on Floyd's blatant drug use and not feel the repercussions?
     
  14. Braindamage

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    Hey! Suicide is no laughing matter! My mom committed suicide when she was 1 month pregnant with me. LOL
     
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