Why Holmes would NOT be better equipped against Frazier than Ali was

Wasn’t it clean left hooks that they caught Ali with instead so that’s gotta mean that Holmes is better equipped against Frazier than Ali since Frazier best shot was his left hook, no?

 

Frazier had no right hand. Never knocked down any pro opponent with that punch. His lack of coordination forced him to predominantly throw his right to his opponents body...a relatively stationary target.

 

So you agree Harry, that Holmes is better equipped to deal with Frazier because Ali was vulnerable to Frazier’s left hook but he had no right hand to threaten Holmes with?

 

I would say that the punch to hit Ali with was a left hook.

I would say the punch to hit Holmes with was a right hand (dropping his jab and a less mobile target).

Frazier had a very quick powerful left hook and a correspondingly poor right hand.

So looking at these aspects Ali would have a tougher time with Frazier than Holmes.

 

Holmes presented more of a stationary target than Ali.

 

No it’s not wrong at all.

Not having a right hand in boxing terminology does not mean said right hand was unusable. It’s means lacking coordination between left and right fists which is readily apparent with Frazier. Joe never knocked any pro opponent down with his right hand...a record for any modern hwt champion. Possible all time. Prime Frazier “had no right hand”.

 

I believe Joe's power is underated because of Ali. There were points in all 3 of their fights that average fighters even with a strong chin, durable etc. They would be stopped.
Even in the 2nd bout considered the mildest of all their fights Ali said "Joe had out on my feet a couple times".
We're talking about something other than chin. It's recovery/ring IQ. Ali like Robinson was virtually impossible to stop.
Holmes was good in all those areas but not quite like Ali. It's a different story when you're talkin about recovering from one big punch as opposed to a man beating your body to shreds for 8 to 10 rounds then landing that big shot huge difference. Holmes would have no legs to get through those moments.
Joe Frazier was a unique force in his own right that can't be discounted. The combination of his non-stop pressure his body attack along with that quick whip of a left hook will be something Holmes never ever experienced.

 

Ali was stronger than Holmes as well. An often overlooked part of his game. He showed it against George Foreman that Ali can hold his own on the clinches.

 

Holmes would much better nullify Joe’s hook than Ali. That would be the major difference. A great left hook without a right hand to follow up is not the way to beat Larry Holmes.

 

You can score an effective punch without a knockdown. When Frazier hit Ali, Ellis, Quarry etc with clean right hands they were scoring punches, they felt the punches and the blood was real as well. Whether from Ali's nose or Quarry's eye. It was reality not this other nonsense.

 

Again there is no need to argue about common knowledge. Frazier did not have a right hand. He lacked coordination between left and right fists. The testament to this is he was the only hwt champion to never knock a pro opponent down with his right hand.

This was Joes Achilles heel.