117-110 Pacquiao

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac won 7-5 to 8-4 quite easily. You would have to find me 7 rounds that Thurman won CLEARLY. If you’re giving every close round to Thurman, that’s enough to show your bias. There were rounds that was close but was clear enough in pacs favour.

    I think if you rewatch the fight and score each round carefully without bias, you would probably come out with Pac 6-7 rounds clean and Keith 2-3 rounds clean. So if you have Keith winning somehow, you would have to give him every unclean rounds.

    If Floyd lost every round where he didn’t dominate it, he would have a handful of losses. Often he won rounds with a couple of jabs extra.

    The way that judge scored it, Pac had to get a KD or badly hurt Thurman in a round for him to score it for Pac. He’s going for the plausible deniability angle and it’s obvious.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac didn't win too many rounds clearly after he built his early lead. The only round Pac really won clearly in the 2nd half was round 10 when he hurt Thurman again. Thurman clearly won round 7 and round 11 imho. Round 8 Pac was winning but Thurman arguably stole the round in the final minute. Rds 6 and 9 will have to go back and watch. Neither fighter won too many rounds clearly, just a lot of close rounds. But Pac-Man with the early knockdown was huge in the scoring. Also that has an affect on the judges when you drop a guy like that early. Will have to go back and re-watch rounds 2-5 as well, but most seemed to think Pac won those, or most of those.
     
  3. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gave Thurman 5 rounds, close but clear win for manny.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The knockdown was really the difference. If it wasn't for the knockdown and the early lead Pac built, Thurman may have won. Far from a domination though as some of these guys claim.
     
  5. sparta

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    I think you could argue a draw without the knockdown, maybe. he was also lucky to make it out of round 10 tbh. I think PAC should retire now while he's on top, you could see his was in some pain at the post fight, Thurman is a big welter and landed some solid shots. That's enough manny.
     
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  6. shadow111

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    Agreed on the 10th. Keith was hurt bad and almost took a knee. Showed some intestinal fortitude to stay up and survive that round. And to his credit Keith came back with a big 11th round. Manny took some big shots from Keith but took em like a champ with a big poker face but he'll be hurting today and for a couple of days.
     
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