Foreman vs Wilder: Who is better

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Who's better

  1. Prime Foreman

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  2. Prime Wilder

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  1. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dead tired in round 1? Because he took a bunch of lead rights in round one. More a Foreman issue that a Wilder one no? Ali got knocked down by 'ammerin 'enry, you think he hits harder than Foreman who laid into Ali for 7 rounds? It goes both ways.
     
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  2. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder has a long way to go before I could even think of putting him on the same level as Foreman. Wilder would need to at least become the undisputed champ.
     
  3. GreenLaternSucked

    GreenLaternSucked Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah because Foreman was hurt by Ali and knocked down by him in round 1 lol. The point is little child Foreman got knocked down by a hall of famer after throwing tons of punches and tiring himself out. Wilder was knocked down by a tomato can with a losing record. Wilder was knocked down by 400 tomato can Dustin Nichols as well. The only people who put Foreman down was Ali a Hall of Famer from fatigue. Ron Lyle a really hard puncher after Foreman didn't fight for 18 months and Jimmy Young after Foreman suffered a heat stroke.

    So like I typed if you actually believe Wilder a guy who has been fighting 12 years and has yet to knock out a world class fighter who is still in their prime could beat Foreman then you should pick a easier sport like golf or soccer to follow. Maybe fake WWE is more up your alley.
     
  4. GreenLaternSucked

    GreenLaternSucked Member banned Full Member

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    Lol yeah you are clearly trying to troll. Why do people feed people like this? Deontay Wilder is slow as molasses. He has no technique, no skill, constantly throws punches off balance and has no defense. Foreman rarely got hit in his prime. Only Ali a Hall of Famer hit him a lot and Ron Lyle after Foreman didn't fight for 18 months. Wilder was hit constantly by Johann Duhaupus of all people. Artur Szpilka made Wilder look a like a amateur. Sloppy unskilled Tyson Fury looked like Sugar Ray Robinson against Wilder and on that note you get blocked for being a really poor troll.
     
  5. GreenLaternSucked

    GreenLaternSucked Member banned Full Member

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    Actually when Foreman was a Olympian he weighed around 230. Foreman got lighter in his earlier career for a couple reasons. First was most fighters during that era came in light. Larry Holmes was 6'3 and 205 during his prime. He clearly could of weighed more but he came into the ring in top shape. Second Foreman fought 34 times in the first 32 months he was pro. He didn't have time to maintain anyway.

    But yeah I agree with everything else you typed.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's no comparison here!!! I thought another recent thread cleared this up....
    Foreman would have destroyed Wilder. Foreman all day and part of next Tuesday....if you know what I mean.
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I thought I did
     
  8. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No but he got hit by him. Ali isn't the level of puncher Wilder is. How many lead rights could Foreman take from a puncher of Wilder's caliber when Ali's rights bothered him? It's a fair question since George's chin was only proven against lesser punchers. Wilder would be the Hardest puncher he ever fought.

    You must be new here, because I'm not.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, cause Wilder has good enough defense to avoid Foreman's all power punches...
     
  10. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's got speed and reach...
     
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  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny that people call Foreman slow, yet against fighters bigger than him he didn't look slow at all:

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    Sure, Hazelton was completely nobody but O'Halloran was decent journeyman.

    Wilder doesn't have better defense than Foreman and he doesn't have better chin. Foreman would outjab him and he would go to the body a lot, that would hurt Wilder. George had great chin, it's unlikely that Wilder would KO him with one right hand. Foreman would wear him out within 5 rounds.
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    He was hit a lot by much slower and shorter Ortiz and Ortiz had less stamina than George. He got hit basically by all shorter fighters he fought and George had much better jab to control the distance.
     
  13. escudo

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    Ortiz is a southpaw, a great jab is pretty rare in a southpaw not counting the dearly departed Sweet Pea, or the converted righties like Loma or Hagler supposedly. Guess what all of Wilder's shorter opponents have in common? They ALL got Ko'ed. George Foreman got hit by everybody he didn't blow out, and never got hit by a hitter with Wilder's single shot power. Ortiz had decent stamina for an old ass man. But unlike Foreman, WIlder can go the distance and carry his power over all 12 rounds. This fight would probably look like a heavyweight Hagler vs Hearns. Shoot out.
     
  14. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Old George was slow, young George was average.
     
  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His stamina looks worse in Wilder bout than in any Foreman fight outside of Ali one and Foreman was much more agressive in Ali fight than Ortiz in Wilder one.
    Wilder was never hit by a hitter with Foreman power either. Wilder was hit by everybody in longer fights too. The difference is that Foreman showed granite chin, while Wilder is still a bit unknown in that aspect - though you can't question his toughness.
     
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