Dave Allen

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  1. Scissors

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    And not many take the sustained punishment that Allen does. These journeymen go down in a round or two, sometimes 5/6 rounds. Allen goes the distance at heavyweight with heavy hitters.
     
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  2. Citizen Smith

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    He needed more than being able to box better. From his interviews it seems there is now some stability at least financially with his family watching his money. He took the Ortiz fight at 3 weeks notice because he was potless and owed the wrong lads 10k. I do like Allen but he's a loose cannon and getting involved with the Ortiz's and Yoka's of this world has probably damaged an already mentally fragile fella.

    There's also these rumours of him being in the pub at 2:30 on the morning prior to Pricey battering him. Eddie's been on social media stating "I don't know if he was or wasn't. He doesn't drink - and if he was, maybe it was cause he couldn't sleep?" - cause that's what you do when you can't sleep on the night before your biggest fight ever, you head to the pub :/

    This is what I mean by needing stability and I don't believe he'll manage it on his own.
     
  3. CutThroatFade

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    Just looking back at the fight with Price from a tactical point of view and the most frustrating thing that Dave Allen kept doing throughout the fight was to tippy tap slowly up Price's body before throwing pathetic wild hooks that were predictable and far too easy to block. Literally that's the only "tactic" he employed throughout the fight.

    Instead of the tippy-tappy punches he should have been firing in hard hooks to the body. even if they just hit arm they'd at least lower Price's guard a little bit.
     
  4. Furious

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    Yeah I noticed that. The style has given him a bit of success vs Browne and Webb. In both of those fights he was happy to soak up punishment whilst closing distance before hitting them with a big shot or counter.

    Against someone experienced and adept like Price, it was clearly not going to work. Tactically naive because he was clearly going to absorb plenty of punishment.
     
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  5. SambaKing1993

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    With this talk of Dave Allen being a journeyman, I’m just amazed that there’s actual journeyman out there bad enough to lose to Dave Allen. He is awful.

    AWFUL.
     
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  6. PaddyGarcia

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    Looked like he was trying to copy some of the combinations Povetkin threw at Price.

    Difference being that Povetkin is capable
     
  7. Snowy1989

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    From the 1st round every time Allen feinted the right hand, Price had his left arm raised; a couple of well placed hooks to the body would’ve at least got Pricey thinking.

    It was mind numbingly sh*te performance from Allen; even more stupid was yours truly who had money on the Allen KO.
     
  8. emallini

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    He was trying that chopping overhand right over Prices left shoulder, but it was so telegraphed and slow. Price was rolling it like a giant James Toney.
     
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    Dave was a bit out of his league and rightfully so tbh. Price a decorated amatuer....an all round big bloke and a guy with ability who cant seem to do it at the top level. Doesnt mean hes not a decent fighter tho. People have seen guys like povetkin take price out and seem to think anyone can.

    I,ll say one thing for dave allen he came forward all night and took his beating well till it got pulled anyway. No tactics would have worked for allen against price...hes just a bit too good for him allround. No shame in that really. He gave it his best on saturday night....no one should be ashamed for that.
     
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  10. Scissors

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  11. CutThroatFade

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    Awful. I didn’t see that fight but many people on the world forum and also people on Twitter (Caleb Plant) were slating ESPN’s insensitive coverage, showing him vomiting and in the ambulance.

    RIP champ.
     
  12. Wizbit1013

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    Thats awful news

    Allen should really think of investing his money and moving on
     
  13. Scissors

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    This is what I mean when I say some fighters need protecting from theirselves. They don’t know when to call it a day. Grim this.

    I said about the Allen fight that he was taking sustained punishment and if it was anyone other than Price he would’ve been pulled but because there was a high chance he could gas they left him in there.

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  14. Bridie mcmahon

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    Was horrendous m8, i was watching it live and It's one of those things that you don't forget.
     
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    Tris Dixon interviewed Mark Hobson for his podcast and Hobson's gambling stories illustrates how easy it is to get drawn into that way of life.

    Hobson's gambling stories are enough to scare the most ardent gambler straight.

    The said thing for Cheeseman is that even though he's only 23, he is littery now only a defeat to Fowler or Fitzgerald away from being thrown to the wolves by Matchroom ala Scott Cardle and Sam Eggington.

    Ex-fighters write books, give interviews and appear on podcasts and the tell stories of all the mistakes they made so the next generation of fighters does not have to.
     
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