Top 5 HWs?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Or top 10?
    (Usyk not included, he's not a HW yet)
    Mine are
    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Andy Ruiz Jr
    3. Deontay Wilder
    4. Dillian Whyte
    5. Anthony Joshua
    Usyk would be number 2, and will be when he fights.
    The rest of my top 10 would be (in no order)

    Pulev
    Povetkin
    Rivas
    Parker
    Hrgovic
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Also with fights like Pulev vs Parker, Hrgovic vs Rivas, Povetkin vs Ruiz and Whyte vs Wilder all able to be made

    It's a very exciting time for HWs
     
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  3. TheRevAshton

    TheRevAshton Member Full Member

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    On Paper;

    1. Ruiz Jr
    2. Wilder
    3. Joshua
    4. Fury
    5. Whyte

    My opinion;

    1. Joshua
    2. Fury
    3. Ruiz Jr
    4. Whyte
    5. Wilder
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Care to justify your opinion?

    Personally I thought all Joshua fan boys had died out but I'm genuinely quote interested, do you think he just had an off night?
     
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  5. Chuck Norris

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    1 Ruiz
    2 Wilder
    3 Fury
    4 Joshua
    5 Whyte
     
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    1 Ruiz
    2 Fury
    3 Joshua
    4 Whyte
    5 Wilder
     
  7. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Suppose you gotta put Ruiz at number 1, that win over AJ is better than anything on Fury or Wilder's CV unless you count Fury beating Wlad but was tainted by TF testing positive and being stripped just after.

    1. Ruiz
    2. Wilder
    3. Fury
    4. Joshua
    5. Whyte
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    What is this based on? Resume/ Status or head to head?
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Just a mixture to be honest, I think Wilder should be top 2 on status, but i think he loses to Ruiz, Fury, Usyk and possibly Whyte. So H2H holds him back from being top 2, but then I can go further and say his résumé is ****, that would take him out of the top 5 tbh, but his status as a long reigning champ keeps him there. These lists can be difficult but I found it pretty straight forward

    I think not having Ortiz in the top 10 might **** a few Wilder fan boys off tho
     
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  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Resume (quality):

    1.Ruiz Jr
    2. AJ/Whyte
    3 AJ/Whyte
    4. Fury
    5. Wilder

    Head to head

    1. Whyte/Fury
    2. Whyte/Fury
    3. Wilder
    4. AJ
    5. Ruiz

    Current status/official ranking

    1. Ruiz
    2. Whyte
    3. Wilder
    4. AJ
    5. Fury
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I did three different rankings based on resume quality, head to head and current status/ official ranking.

    I used a matrix on paper to figure out who I think would beat who in the top 5, and for Whyte and Fury I gave them the best chance of winning the most times if all 5 faced each other:

    Head to Head

    Whyte could beat - AJ, Ruiz, Wilder
    Fury could/already has beat - Wilder, Whyte, Ruiz

    AJ would only beat Fury
    Ruiz could only beat AJ
    Wilder could beat both AJ and Ruiz.

    Current status

    Ruiz has the most belts, beat the best opponent/challenge
    Whyte is the interim WBC champion, and he beat better opposition than Wilder to get it, and even after Wilder got it.
    AJ had three belts before he lost them
    Wilder has one belt, but was protected byt the WBC and took one mandatory every three years, and constantly ducks credible opponents, and is useless as a champion
    Fury polishes his non existent lineal belt everyday, and has turned into a mime artist, he has no belt, and the last time he did was a long minute ago.
     
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  12. TheRevAshton

    TheRevAshton Member Full Member

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    Sure..

    I just don't think he gave Ruiz any respect at all and completely overlooked him, he went for a finish that wasn't available whilst neglecting defense and paid the price - s*** happens! He was beaten by the better man on the night.

    I genuinely think he comes back to comfortably beats Ruiz and the rest, he's the only guy I back to beat Fury.

    When Usyk arrives at HW, it's a different story and he could take over - but from the current roster, yes I think AJ is #1.
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Look at Fury's recent fights, just one guy, Wilder...? Who we all knew has **** resume, and **** boxing skills.

    Fury is pathetic... calling our Trevor Bryan... TREVOR ****ING BRYAN?? WHO THE **** IS HE????

    And Schwarz, Pianeta, Seferi... **** this guy who people call the greatest.
     
  14. BoxingNL

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    1. Wilder (very close)
    2. Fury
    3. Ruiz
    4. Joshua
    5. Whyte
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    1. Wilder
    2. Ruiz
    3. Fury
    4. Joshua
    5. Ortiz/Whyte
     
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