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So you think these guys would be considered Bums of the Month?

Norton of the Holmes fight
Mike Weaver
Tony Tucker
Tony Tubbs
Tim Witherspoon
Michael Moorer
Gerry Cooney
Michael Dokes
Buster Douglas
Michael Spinks

You think they're comparable to the likes of:
Jack Roper
Tony Musto
Gus Dorazio
Johnny Paycheck
Johnny Davis
Al Mccoy
Jim Braddock
Tony Galento
Harry Thomas
Abe Simon

 

You could also add Red Burman and even guys like Billy Conn. Conn was a solid guy but weighed between 160 and 170 most of his career. But anyway according to these old geeezers each of the guys Joe Louis faced even though most of them would be considered middleweights to cruiser weights by today's standards were better than the other guys you named. You know why? Because if you boxed back in the 20's, 30's 40's and early 50's no modern fighter could beat you.

 

I have no problem with @Pat M at all.

 

Let me explain to you how the bum of the month club worked.

If you lost to Louis in a title challenge, you were a bum of the month.

That was the break I'm afraid.

It didn't matter if you would could been the champion in another era, whether your record had merit in it's own right, or even whether you were part of the group of fighters originally given the "bum of the month" label!

That is the eclipsing effect that a very long reigning champion has on the competition!

 

The thing I love the most is comparing human beings to cars and technology. Just because cars are more advanced nowadays, people also have to be more advanced right?

 

And a poster who returns after being banned and says the same crap over and over again.

 

I can't remember a time where Lach has said Marciano beats Foreman

 

I think it's undeniable that people are more advanced. Just not as much as people make out

 

Not at all, from biological perspective we are identical to our ancestors. Yeah, we are a bit taller now but it's due to better nurtition and richier societies. Evolution doesn't work that way, pick a child from 1870s and transport it to 2010s and he wouldn't be any different.

 

Athletes are undeniably better,

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Just not by much

 

Weaver was one of the fighters I could see troubling Joe, for the reason you stated. Of course, Louis might exploit Weaver's slow start?

 

This video proves that human being is basically the same. Differences are in equipment, nurtition and talent pool. On average, people's athletic potential hasn't grown since 1900.