Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

I don't disagree and mainly I'm trying to make Aydamn understand what happened is not good or ethical in the slightest. I do think keeping hushed up that a fighter failed a drug test is legally dodgy. Had they told Rivas and explained it was a marginal fail - as seems to be the case - and maybe offered some extra cash with a gagging clause, he may have chosen to fight anyway and most of this would not be an issue. But what if Rivas had been badly hurt? That's where Hearn is on dodgy ground. Put it this way, had it not been PPV he'd have pulled Whyte out with an 'injury'. But he has a contract with Sky to consider and he never thought the cover would be blown like it was.

 

Wilder himself has even stated that that was mere bravado on his part, and that he never sets out to kill another fighter. I think he realised how foolish he sounded as soon as he said it.

 

A fight is signed with drug testing as part of the agreement. This we know because VADA was also part of the deal. A boxer failed a drugs test and the other fighter was not informed. If you can't see a path to legal action from those circumstances, I can't help you

 

Just lmfao Tommy Robinson was in contempt of court.

If Whyte hasn’t failed a test then he can 100% say that. If it’s an irrefutable fact that a test has not been failed what possible legal ramifications could there be from a statement saying that he hasn’t failed a test.

GTFO dosser.

 

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Look, these are fighters, cut from the same cloth, for the most part, they represent a certain demographic. Every fighter has a level of aggression in them, you can't expect these people to be responsible for the well being of their opponent. Or their promoters.

There is supposed to be an independent body, either regulated through the government or a local commission to ensure the safety of fighters competing in sanctioned bouts.

On whom does this responsibility fall? Not the fighters, not the promoters. Who issues the bans? Who issues the fines? The punishments?

Whyte was cleared fully by VADA, and by UKAD/BBBoC to fight, and the fight took place, and the documentation and evidence of testing is available. That already goes a long way in any court of law.

A judge will look at the fighters actions and behaviour leading up to the fight, and someone that was on VADA365 is going to have a VERY STRONG CASE.

Thank the LORD, that Whyte signed up to that, he is an intelligent mofo on that move. Protecting his ass. Got tested on the SAME night as well.

 

And if you can't see that Whyte and Rivas were cleared to fight and were subject to extensive VADA testing and passed it. Then oh well, let's the professionals decide what to do. See you in court.

 

First of all, all this information you're getting from is from a PBC associated boxing scene journalist. And a journalist who has not even publicly verified his sources. So before having a patronising whinge about someone's "degree educated brain" why don't you stop jumping the gun and wait until we have something more than limited information on the subject at hand.

Secondly, if you think Bob arum, Al Haymon would or any other top promoter would jeopardise a big fight card scheduled a few days before drugs results come back you're just naive. If Hearn and Whyte have done what's been reported they're both shitheads and idiots but let's not act that other Promoters are goodie two shoes. They're all likely corrupt people just fall silly for one side or the other.

 

Something like that (along with making sure there are ample medics and enough ambulances on stand by) probably should be, as they, the promoters, are the ones putting the event on (in this case, under the auspices of the BBBofC).

Barry Hearn has stated that he feels partly responsible for Michael Watson's injuries sustained from the rematch with Chris Eubank -- at which there was no ambulance or paramedics at White Hart Lane that night, and it took doctors some eight minutes to get to the stricken Watson. I'm pretty sure Hearn Sr mentions this on the Chris Eubank episode of 'Sports Life Stories'.

 

I get the ethical statements, but the sport can't be maintained or run by the expectation of "ethical behavior" there must be some legal control either via a commission, regulatory body or independent, accredited boards. And of the ones that exist here in UK and beyond, Whyte got their green light. End of discussion.

They know better whether to inform Rivas or not. Unless they were bought out by Hearn? To be quiet? How many guys would he have to bribe?

 

But Whyte failed a UKDA test and it was hushed up. If I saw you in court it would feel like I'd won the lottery...

 

Probably should be, probably not. Whyte made all the right moves, being labelled a scumbag etc is just uncalled for... the professionals and the experts and the science boffins did their testing, if they thought Rivas would be in some danger, no one is holding a gun to their head not to inform Rivas... their bread and butter is anti-doping, health and safety of the sport.

 

Hushed up? So if someone fails a test yeah it just gets hushed up and there are no ramifications? Cool I never knew that. Maybe that's why it is so easy to cheat... nobody says anything?

UKAD/BBBoC just send you a letter saying you failed... you then take that letter... burn it... and go on with your day. Nobody will ever find out.

So let me ask you, is VADA worthless? You haven't said one thing about VADA testing, you are hushing up on that topic.

 

You've finally got it. He failed the test, nothing was said, Rivas wasn't informed and they hoped it would go away like it did for Fury, until enough time had passed the impact was minimal. Correct.

Problem is, seems like Whyte or Hearn have made an enemy of someone, enough to make them go public straight after the weekend....

VADA is a total red herring which is being thrown about. It doesn't matter how many tests you pass if you fail one. The only way to negate the impact of a failed test is to challenge its findings, by asking for the B Sample to be tested as a starting point. But it seems Whyte isn't choosing this option. The B Sample test can be arranged within 24-48 hours....

 

Cool - anyways, I grow tired of speculation, I am really not a speculation kind of guy. I'll just wait, and learn more over the coming weeks. It's not like we are involved in the process? We'll see where this all ends up one day, I just want to see Whyte fight Wilder.

I choose to believe Whyte is clean, and did not deliberately take PEDs. At this current time I stand by Whyte.