Ray Mercer knocked out Zelko Mavrovic in 1 round in 1988 at amateurs

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  1. GreenLaternSucked

    GreenLaternSucked Member banned Full Member

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    Right the thing is you are imbecile because clearly that isn't what you typed. You brought up the term super heavyweight. Nobody else brought it up on this topic. Nobody else making comments on this topic mentioned anything about super heavyweights or stated that a 215 pound guy couldn't beat a 230 pound guy. Now once I told you off and proved how silly you are now you are going to try to pretend that is what you were saying. What a sad little kid you are. I feel embarrassed for you. I won't even waste my time reading your comeback. You get blocked. Now go back to talking about to super heavyweights like a good little boy.
     
  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said it's interesting that a guy classed as a modern SHW (a common term used for a skilled 240+lb fighter) couldn't stop a 210-15 lb more traditional sized heavy despite hitting him with everything. My point is it's food for thought for the types who say that the modern guys are simply too big for the smaller greats of yesteryear which I believe to be untrue and apparently you do to.

    So why you turned that into a rant about the term SHW, Max Kellerman and then listing some larger fringe contenders from the 70's (who despite being large weren't particularly skilled or powerful) is beyond me.

    Anyway I'm glad you're not going to waste your time time reading this because you're too stupid to even understand what I wrote to begin with and I'm glad to be on your ignore list because I don't want to interact with you in this or any other guise you want to post your horse**** under. I like conversing with posters who are interested and interesting. You're neither, just dumb and boring with very limited knowledge of the sport.
     
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Which is exactly what you can do, and for example David Haye advised AJ to do:

    1) Neck and trapezius workout. AJ is already doing them to some extend, showed the neck bridge in his clips. Trapezius is another factor stabilizing the head against punches from the front, as well so some extend rotational movement (shots from the side of the head).

    2) Doing some heavy sparring. It wasn´t Haye only who advised AJ to get into the ring and get used to getting hit.

    Of course its debatable to what extend you can "work" you chin. For example a bigger head helps against the head getting moved (inertia).
     
  4. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I've never seen a reference to Lewis collapsing after the fight and you haven't provided one.Just as you did not provide the names of the opponents,[ and the dates they fought Johnson,] I requested from you prior to him fighting Choynski.
    The only thing busted here is your unsupported statements!
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Another troll.
     
  6. GreenLaternSucked

    GreenLaternSucked Member banned Full Member

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    Cute another person I blocked.
     
  7. he grant

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    That's because they all kept fighting while Mavrovic never fought again after the Lewis fight. McCall, Holyfield, Tua and Mercer all had exceptional chins. Lennox Lewis was one of the biggest right hand punchers in heavyweight history. He was in top shape and in his prime for the Mavrovic fight, defending his title in a televised bout. He pounded Mavrovic as the fight progressed. If one fight can prove a chin, that one did.

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  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Key characteristic of a troll .. few posts on a site ( under his alt ) but many unpleasant conversations ... looking forward to your next alias ..
     
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  9. dinovelvet

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    lol. The "iron" chin of Vitali is literally based off one fight , and in that one fight he reacted worse to Lewis punches than 210lb Mavrovic did.

    Maybe we should be calling Vitali's chin overrated instead
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Which fight is it? Sanders or Lewis? Oh wait that's two fights. And he was hit cleanly in many others. Vitali had fare more fights than Mavoric, and was active past his prime too. Never once was he floored.

    If you were astute or fair minded, you'd know Lewis hit Vitali better and harder than he did to Mavrovic.
     
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  11. Tonto62

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    I don't think we can really question Vitali's chin in that fight.More pertinent for me was the way Lennox absorbed Vitali's right hands without going down.This showed two things imo .
    1. Lennox's chin was underated ,2.Vitali's power was overated.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

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    Its actually a lot more reasonable to point out that Mavrovic was hit harder because Lewis was fresher , faster and more explosive.

    Physics don't lie either , an uppercut hitting Mavroic's chin has more force than an uppercut hitting the much taller Vitali's chin.

    Lewis threw everything he had into Mavrovic and he sucked it up like it was nothing for 12 rounds.

    Vitali's legs buckled off a jab and he was staggering all over the place from uppercuts that had less pop on them than the ones that hit Mavroic.

    The Mavroiv fight proves Vitali chin is overrated.
     
  13. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you estimate Vitali's chin based on Sanders' fight?
     
  14. dinovelvet

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    Sanders hurt him and its debatable wheather he dropped him or not. Vitali fought very cautiously after being buzzed and never got hit with anything again so there's not much to take away from that fight other than Vitali ran away when he got connected on early.

    Would you agree that Vitali fled when he tasted Sanders power?
     
  15. Tonto62

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    He certainly hurt him,then again, I think he was capable of doing that to anyone.