Is Usyk's run of wins the most impressive in today's boxing?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yes, Usyk has been the man since he beat Glowacki, who was the man after he beat Huck.
    And no you wouldn't have to beat anyone else, but their will always be doubters, Ruiz has just beaten the number 1 HW, he isn't universally recognised as the number 1 HW. Usyk beating the rest when he didn't have to (by your own words), that's impressive
    Yes, that's Usyk at CW, he's just proved his dominance
    Against no one's. Usyk's wins are against multiple guys who had top 10 pfp claims
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    he beat the rest because those were the fights available, thats why loma is fighting comparative chumps right now. loma doesnt have to, yet im not impressed with him fighting crolla, i will keep the same consistency with usyk, im not overly impressed.
    name these multiple top ten fighters who have pfp claims, and lets compare them to who mikey has beaten. this should clear up a lot of the confusion on my part.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    in his division perhaps (sad indictment that makes of the HW division not withstanding) but this is a interdivisional question.
     
  5. Braindamage

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    The man is beyond impressive! Hope he brings hell in the HW division!
     
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  6. Can I box

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    Which GGG wins?
     
  7. bandeedo

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    ok buddy, i will help the debate along so we can get to the meat of things.
    this is a comparative study of usyk and mikey, feel free to add any info you feel is relevant to the discussion. i trust you are more than these emotional posters who are writing with their hearts instead of their minds.
    combined win/loss ratio of opponents in usyks last 10 fights, and mikeys 10 opponents across 4 divisions
    usyks mikeys
    251-39 301-44
    thats pretty close to even, especially since both fought a total of 4 undefeated fighters in that span, till you consider mikey went up 3 times already to beat a new group of contenders. its also funny that the fighter that brings mikeys average down, orlando salido, has 14 losses, yet has a win over a current top 2 p4p.
    give me your best defense of usyk.
     
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  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which is why I said relatively. Even taking that into account the gap is large.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Glowacki, top 10 candidate after his win over long reigning champ Marco Huck
    Gassiev, dominate fighter coming of a close win over Lebedev and a win over Dorticos. Top 10 consideration
    Briedis, wins over Perez, Huck and moved up to HW and KOed Manuel Charr. Top 10 consideration.

    Even Bellew with his two wins over Haye is debatable, although I wouldn't debate it.
    Has wins over 5 fighters who were undefeated at his weight, an ATG at the weight and a contender who has will make some real noise at HW. He was clearly fighter of 2018, win percentage isn't everything. Name me a Mikey Garcia opponents who are as skilled as skilled as Briedis and only if he beat them at there natural weight. Or Gassiev, Hunter or Bellew.
    Mikey hasn't beaten anyone on there level and has win
    The numbers are lying. Usyk is fighting at a higher weight, there are less fights at weights higher both today and historically. Meaning that Mikey's opponents will have more fights against people with padded records this bringing his total up. Had they been fighting less they would've stepped up sooner and picked up more losses.

    Also his best wins are over Robert Easter, Roman Martinez and Sergey Lipinits.
    Imo definitely not as strong as Gassiev, Huck, Glowacki, Briedis, Bellew and Hunter.
     
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  10. PunchersChance.

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    None of those guys were close to top ten p4p.

    The best win between Usyk and Garcia is Salido.
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Not a chance
     
  12. PunchersChance.

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    Easily. You seriously think Glowakci and Breidis are p4p after beating an old Huck, ghost of Mike Perez and Manuel Charr?!
     
  13. PunchersChance.

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    Also, this is completely nonsensical.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    Much more than anyone Garcia's beat

    Name 10 better than both at the start of 2018 and in 2016 if you want.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

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    Tell me why then. Nothing in it was wrong