Is John L Sullivan the greatest finisher ever?

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  1. Mendoza

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    Hardly he failed to finish many guys in the 1880's.
     
  2. JackSilver

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    There was this old fossil called Perry that used to post here and he was said to have memories of Dempsey when he was still a railway hobo.

    You must be familiar with that old timer, Harry?
     
  3. janitor

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    I think that we have to treat a Police intervention as a TKO for this period.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Yes, but a good finisher can get his man out before the police get out of their seats and take 30 seconds to enter the ring.

    The best finisher was probably Louis.
     
  5. JackSilver

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    Yeah but we now know that the T-Rex was far from the biggest or most ferocious prehistoric monster around. It was hard to imagined another dinosaur could be a match for the T-Rex at the time of its fossilised discovery but time and greater knowledge of the past has shown that bigger and more fiercer dinosaurs were able to supersede it.

    A bit like Sullivan who like the T-Rex still has his established rep and image intact.
     
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  6. janitor

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    I am certain that they did not take 30 seconds.

    They seem to have reacted very quickly!
     
  7. BitPlayerVesti

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    And Tom Cribb is like a Dimetrodon.
     
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  8. janitor

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    It can hold its own today!
     
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  9. The Morlocks

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    Me too man! Rest In Peace Rutger Hauer. I liked him best in Nighthawks
     
  10. BitPlayerVesti

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    What animals are those?
    There were bigger sea predators. but that's not an especially fair comparison.

    I don't think there was any land predators that big before the dinosaurs, or after. I know spinosaurus was bigger, but that ate fish and was pretty aquatic.

    I'm not saying there aren't any, as I've not really kept up with this stuff, I'm just curious. The biggest question I saw was to what extent it was actually a predator, or if it was really more scavenger, though a lot of modern predators are also scavengers to a pretty large extent.
     
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  11. JackSilver

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    Yeah, I got no problem with that. I’m a fan myself. 140million years that dinosaurs were around it was inevitable that they would eventually find a bigger predator than the T-Rex but it still deserves its title as the greatest and most popular dinosaur of all for the successful role it has played in popularising dinosaurs for generations to adults and children alike.
     
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  12. 70sFan865

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    Giganotosaurus and Caharodontosaurus were probably a bit bigger overall, though Trex had bulkier body. Spinosaurus was likely more than just a fish eater too. Tarbosaurus was nearly the same size. There are some evidences that Allosaurus (can't remeber which one) was longer, but he wasn't nearly as heavy. There is also Acrocantrosaurus, a bit smaller but quite comparable.

    I haven't researched these things for years, I used to be very interested in dinosaurs and earlier species before I decided to study physics. So maybe there are more new species I don't even know. Either way, Trex is still one of the biggest land predators in history, at least known ones.
     
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  13. HerolGee

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    Split Second

    "coffee ...and chocolate..heheh" awesome quote

    not forgetting Omega Doom
     
  14. janitor

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    Good summary.

    You could throw Mapusaurus and Tyrannotitan into the argument.

    For me, the similarity between the size of these species, is more interesting than the differences.

    It suggests some sort of practical limit perhaps?
     
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  15. HerolGee

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    hearing people in their 100s dictating memories of the 19th century is priceless. best part of nursing in the 2000s, wish i'd paid more attention now but was just grinding for uni fees towards the end. no fee is worth more than hearing them,no fee will replay it now. who knows one of them might have seen a boxer of sullys time...

    edge of living memory is a freaky thing, all ther things that are about to be lost forever.
    teh weird thing is they dont value it!
     
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